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re: Carr Retires as Michigan's Coach...
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:29 pm to TigerDom
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:29 pm to TigerDom
I called into 1210 am this evening and suggested that Will Muschamp would be someone to look into as the possible replacement for Miles (if he leaves). I know he doesn't have HC experiece...but I can see him as "rising star" in the head coaching ranks.
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Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:30 pm to istroumatiger
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I called into 1210 am this evening and suggested that Will Muschamp would be someone to look into as the possible replacement
WTF?
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:31 pm to istroumatiger
Is he serious when he says "Ar- Kansas?" Thats freakin awesome! 
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:33 pm to LILKLSU
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WTF?
nice retort...
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:34 pm to JVTiger
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I've never considered you intelligent and I've only known of your existence for 1 minute. And that's a minute of my life I'll never get back.
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Like I said, you weren't an elite program until then. There is nothing wrong with that. LSU will be going forward. I'm not criticizing LSU, I'm objecting to calling Michigan a step down. I said the program is equal, that's a lot more than you'll get from any other Michigan fan, or even college football fan in general.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:38 pm to ShockFX
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I'm objecting to calling Michigan a step down.
As well you should. We have a lot of delusional fans. Pay them no mind.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:41 pm to CIBAtiger
why not just name the coach at lee high interim in the mean time while miles decides??
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:42 pm to istroumatiger
thet obviously don't drug test their callers.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:43 pm to TigerDom
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exactly ... and that is why LSU needs to suck it up and approach Les ... let him make his secret deal with Michigan if they want to, but do it as quickly as possible and keep LSU in the loop ...
The interesting thing about what you said here is the word "secret". What I'm getting at is that it's possible this has already happened and very few would know about it...at least this is something that has been floated in the highest circles.
The biggest counter to this is that nothing stays under wraps for long, so this would eventually leak.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:44 pm to ShockFX
you need to take a drug test yourself because your team has been living on past accomplishments the past few years. And don't try that bcs shite your team got smoked in both games.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:44 pm to istroumatiger
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nice retort...
not...utter awe at a blind shot in the dark. I'm sure you got a good reaction, or maybe just a brush off.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:55 pm to LSUWEST
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you need to take a drug test yourself because your team has been living on past accomplishments the past few years. And don't try that bcs shite your team got smoked in both games.
No one is disputing the last few years have been subpar. However, when your past few years are 3 Rose Bowls in 5 years, that's not a bad thing. However, not having a losing season in 40 years, and going to 33 straight bowl games, that has to count for something. I never made any disparaging comment on LSU, so I don't understand the attacks.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 10:56 pm to ShockFX
"Elite" program is somewhat subjective. (based solely on won-loss record? How about facilities; fan support; fan base; attendance figures?) Do you consider Florida to be an elite pgm? Until Spurrier arrived there in 1990, they had not won a SINGLE SEC championship. Sure, they've been "elite" since 1990. LSU football history goes back to the 1890s. If we claimed every friggin' NC that we possibly could (like some other SEC school that will remain nameless), we'd probably have 5 or 6 "claimed" NCs. As it stands, being modest and reasonable, we claim two -- 1958 and 2003. LSU was a strong national contender in the late 50s and throughout most of the 60s. LSU fielded competitive teams in the 70s and were generally in the mix (went to two Orange Bowls in the early 70s) but Bama dominated the 70s. In the 80s -- an Orange Bowl and 2 Sugar Bowls. Early 90s a dustbowl. Modest success in the mid to late 90s, and this decade .... frankly, if there is a "team of the decade," it's LSU. I would never say that Mich. is a "step down" in coaching circles from LSU ... it's a lateral move, but that stuff is irrelevant when it comes to an alum such as Miles. At present, LSU is a better job.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:02 pm to TigerJeff
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I would never say that Mich. is a "step down" in coaching circles from LSU ... it's a lateral move, but that stuff is irrelevant when it comes to an alum such as Miles. At present, LSU is a better job.
UM is a storied program , but right now the lumber is down south. It is cyclical though. I'm afraid UM can offer something to Les that $ won't make up for or compete with(and he strikes me as the type of cat that isn't in it for just the $)...so all y'all who think Les will stay here are delusional.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:04 pm to TigerBite
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The interesting thing about what you said here is the word "secret". What I'm getting at is that it's possible this has already happened and very few would know about it...at least this is something that has been floated in the highest circles.
The biggest counter to this is that nothing stays under wraps for long, so this would eventually leak.
Good points.
There are reasons why the current sitch sux for LSU, and other reasons why it doesn't. The reason it sux is b/c the timing of things could really screw LSU ... ideally, if Miles is going, it's best for the LSU brass to know NOW, so they can start making the needed contacts to coaches' agents/reps. Coaches can deny they've spoken to another school 'til they're blue in the face ... the truth is that the talking is done by intermediaries. In the event Miles leaves, there could be great coaches out there who would be interested in coming to LSU, but the timing might not work out. That sux.
On the other hand -- things that I think are overblown (and I could be wrong) ... but I don't see this team being "distracted" from their goal of winning an NC. I don't see them losing to Arky, and while UGA would be a big hurdle (if it's them) ... we can beat 'em. I don't think this will hurt recruiting ... whatever is going to happen is going to happen well before signing date.
IF Skip has his shite together on this (and I'm not sure he does) he will ALREADY have a short list prepared and have made contacts w/ agents/reps of guys like Cowher, Spurrier, Tuberville, Pinkel, Leavitt, D'Antonio, Fox, Del Rio. The odds are, it won't be a big splashy name like a Cowher or Spurrier .... probably someone like a Pinkel.
That said, I hope Les stays.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:05 pm to TigerBite
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The biggest counter to this is that nothing stays under wraps for long, so this would eventually leak
true ... but ... as I said, no one will be talking about anything else anyway ... perhaps the best thing is for it to "come out" unofficially ... that way everyone can play along with the supposed "secret"
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:09 pm to ShockFX
quote:If LSU wasn't an elite program, neither was Michigan:
Like I said, you weren't an elite program until then.
• Since the 2000 season, LSU¹s football program is 80-21; Michigan 72-27.
• Since 1949, the Tigers have won two national titles (1958, 2003) and the Wolverines just one (1997).
• LSU is 19-18-1 all-time in bowl games; Michigan 18-20. Over the past 10 seasons, LSU is 6-2 and Michigan 5-5 in postseason dates.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:11 pm to Pistol...2K4
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but right now the lumber is down south.
If Miles goes to UM, Pellini to Nebraska, Tuberville to A&M, Nutt is fired, Richt to PSU/FSU (rumors I've heard but don't understand) Spurrier possibly leaving SC, things could get ugly in SEC country. That said, SEC schools have much hotter girls, and for that I'll always be jealous.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:13 pm to ShockFX
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If Miles goes to UM, Pellini to Nebraska, Tuberville to A&M, Nutt is fired, Richt to PSU/FSU (rumors I've heard but don't understand) Spurrier possibly leaving SC, things could get ugly in SEC country. That said, SEC schools have much hotter girls, and for that I'll always be jealous.
It ain't just the coaches dawg! It's the talent esp. the SPEED
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:17 pm to JVTiger
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If LSU wasn't an elite program, neither was Michigan:
• Since the 2000 season, LSU¹s football program is 80-21; Michigan 72-27.
• Since 1949, the Tigers have won two national titles (1958, 2003) and the Wolverines just one (1997).
• LSU is 19-18-1 all-time in bowl games; Michigan 18-20. Over the past 10 seasons, LSU is 6-2 and Michigan 5-5 in postseason dates.
Aww come on, don't pick and choose statistics to best suit your point. My point was that LSU wasn't a power until Saban got there. Compare the 80s or 90s if you want. Heck, compare the 70s too.
Since 2000, LSU has been better. But both have 3 BCS appearances. I know LSU has been better and won those games, not arguing that.
UM won the 1948 NC.
UM is one game worse in bowl records. Also keep this in mind. From 1918-1945, the Big Ten did not allow its teams to participate in bowls. From 1946-1974, only the conference champion was allowed to attend a bowl (the Rose Bowl), and no team could go two years in a row.
Michigan has been in a bowl every year since 1974, and has had a winning season every year since 1967. This can't be discounted.
Like I said, both are elite programs now, and that is all that matters.
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