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re: Chances of Jimbo Fisher to Au ?
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:45 am to TheOcean
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:45 am to TheOcean
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Why in the hell would Jimbo leave to go to Auburn or Arkansas
I feel like I can say with some confidence at this point that Auburn may be the only job he'd willingly leave Tallahassee for. All I know is I was told he would take it "in a heartbeat" if offered.
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Both are step downs
Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true.
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only way I could see it happening would be $$$$$
1) Issues with power brokers because of the way Bowden was run off
2) Admit it or not, but FSU is broke as shite
3) Wife graduated from Auburn, they met here
4) $$$$
5) Better conference - he's sitting with a one-loss team at #10 in the BCS. #4-9 ahead of him are all from the SEC, some with two losses.
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:53 am to TheSandman
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All I know is I was told he would take it "in a heartbeat" if offered.
Meh. I hear from my third cousin's wife's sister that he would never leave Tallahassee
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Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true.
Football is all about recruiting. Our recruiting numbers won't be touched by Auburn or Arkansas.
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1) Issues with power brokers because of the way Bowden was run off
No longer an issue.
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2) Admit it or not, but FSU is broke as shite
Huh? Our Athetlic department is doing fine. The new ACC deal helped a lot. Also, I'm sure the money will start flowing from the boosters again after this year.
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3) Wife graduated from Auburn, they met here
Sounds pretty circumstantial to me.
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4) $$$$
Only way I could see him leaving. It certainly wouldn't be because Auburn/Arkansas is a better job.
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5) Better conference - he's sitting with a one-loss team at #10 in the BCS. #4-9 ahead of him are all from the SEC, some with two losses.
Depends on how you look at it. More competition is not always the best thing. We can compete for an ACC title even in our down years. I honestly don't think jumping from the ACC to the SEC would be a high priority. Outside of LSU/UGA/Bama/UF to be honest the jobs are pretty mediocre.
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 8:54 am
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:53 am to TheOcean
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FSU will always put up top 10 recruiting classes.
Recruiting? Not at all what I was getting at.
Starting with the 2000 season (since you are disputing the "this isn't the 90s" comment) and going through the 2011 season, here are some stats:
Auburn: 110-44 (2 perfect seasons, 1 national title)
Ranked #12 over that time period.
Florida State: 92-52
Ranked #23 over that time period.
Infer what you will.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:59 am to TheSandman
Recruiting is the backbone to success in CFB. Everyone knows this. FSU will always be able to put together top 10 classes, you can't say the same about Auburn.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:59 am to TheOcean
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Meh. I hear from my third cousin's wife's sister that he would never leave Tallahassee
Don't trust me, I don't particularly care.
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Football is all about recruiting. Our recruiting numbers won't be touched by Auburn or Arkansas.
We are the poster child as for why that is not the case at all. Tubs could take 3*s and put them in the NFL, Chizik takes 5*s and sends them to McDonald's or prison.
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Depends on how you look at it. More competition is not always the best thing. We can compete for an ACC title even in our down years. I honestly don't think jumping from the ACC to the SEC would be a high priority. Outside of LSU/UGA/Bama/UF to be honest the jobs are pretty mediocre.
Alabama
Florida
Tennessee
LSU
Auburn
Georgia
Are all on par or better than FSU.
South Carolina (now that they've woken up)
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Are all a step down, but not by much.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:00 am to TheOcean
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Recruiting is the backbone to success in CFB. Everyone knows this.
I'm sorry, I just can't take you seriously anymore after repeatedly hearing this. I'm done, think what you will, but there is a very real chance that Jimbo will be on Auburn's sideline next year.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:01 am to TheSandman
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We are the poster child as for why that is not the case at all.
Obviously there are outliers (cough USC). Regardless, put together top 10 recruiting classes year in and year out and you will have a better opportunity to compete for a title than teams that don't
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:02 am to TheSandman
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I'm sorry, I just can't take you seriously anymore after repeatedly hearing this.
Yeah, you're right. Since teams that do sometimes compete without top ten classes means that recruiting isn't very important.
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very real chance that Jimbo will be on Auburn's sideline next year.
If the money is right I'm sure there's a very real chance a lot of coaches could be
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:16 pm to TheOcean
I actually agree with the hippy semi-hole troll for once. Auburn is a step down from f$u. Only way he leaves is for more money.
I lied earlier in this thread when I stated the only advantage auburn has over f$u is conference (that doesn't matter in this situation). Only real advantage auburn actually holds is a better stadium/fanbase.
I lied earlier in this thread when I stated the only advantage auburn has over f$u is conference (that doesn't matter in this situation). Only real advantage auburn actually holds is a better stadium/fanbase.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:21 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:Really?
I lied earlier in this thread when I stated the only advantage auburn has over f$u is conference (that doesn't matter in this situation)
Seems Jimbo isn't too thrilled with the way the BCS is working out right now... and it looks like it comes down to conferences...
Jimbo Rails Against Non-Human element of BCS
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Less than 24 hours after his one-loss Florida State football team was ranked No. 10 in the latest BCS standings, Jimbo Fisher didn't mince words at his weekly press conference when asked about the system that yearly determines the participants for college football's five premier bowl games.
"I think it stinks. I think the BCS and how we go with all these computers and all this stuff, I think we're ruining it," Fisher said. "I'm going to tell you what, the [impending] playoff which we have right now ain't going to solve it either. What's the playoff going to solve? I mean you've still got the same situation. They've got to change how we pick the top teams in this country.
"You've got to change it; it's not working."
Fisher's irritation with the system stems not just from the fact that his Seminoles are ranked behind three two-loss SEC teams (LSU, Texas A&M and South Carolina) in the BCS standings but in the formula that is used to determine them.
In addition to utilizing rankings from the weekly USA Today Coaches Poll and the Harris Interactive College Football Poll -- both of which are produced by people -- the BCS also employs a combination of six computer polls (Jeff Anderson & Chris Hester, Richard Billingsley, Wes Colley, Kenneth Massey, Jeff Sagarin and Peter Wolfe) to determine its weekly standings.
"If we've got to let a computer tell us who is the best team, we've got an issue," Fisher said. "We've got a major problem and I think it's got to be fixed."
"The human element has got to get back in this game," he added.
To illustrate Fisher's point, both the USA Today Coaches Poll and Harris Poll this week kept FSU ranked No. 6 in the nation after the 'Noles improved to 9-1 for the first time since 2000 by beating Virginia Tech on the road.
But the computers weren't nearly as kind. Florida State is No. 17 in the Anderson & Hester, No. 18 in the Billingsley, No. 15 in the Colley, No. 27 in the Massey, No. 16 in the Sagarin and No. 17 in the Wolfe.
The Massey, for example, has, among several other struggling teams with multiple losses, 5-5 Missouri ranked ahead of the Seminoles this week. Clemson -- a 9-1 team that lost to Florida State earlier this year -- is rated ahead of the 'Noles in five of the six computer rankings.
"It's too much about who you play and not how you play," Fisher said.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:29 pm to joeyb147
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"It's too much about who you play and not how you play," Fisher said.
not to get off topic, but didn't his team just need a last second TD to beat a terrible VT team?... and you can't lose to NC State and say that with a straight face.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:55 pm to lowspark12
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not to get off topic, but didn't his team just need a last second TD to beat a terrible VT team?...
I think that the VT win was a solid win for FSU. They were playing a night game in Lane Stadium, VT is very tough there, and BF defense was playing for their season. If they could have beaten FSU that could have salvaged their season and they played like it. BF had a great defensive gameplan against FSU but it wasn't enough.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:57 pm to lowspark12
has anybody mentioned that Auburn would be a step down for Jimbo? Florida State is an infinately better job than Auburn or Arkansas. Tallahassee way> auburn or fayatteville.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:07 pm to joeyb147
Thing is, that won't matter after next year. Coaching in the weak ACC >>>>> coaching in tSEC West.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:13 pm to ironsides
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Tallahassee way> auburn or fayatteville.
Have you actually been to Tallahassee?... it's an alright town, but isn't doesn't compare to Auburn or Fayettevile.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:25 pm to lowspark12
Why are people saying Jimbo and Arkansas in the same sentence? There hasn't been a peep about Arkansas and Jimbo.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:28 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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Thing is, that won't matter after next year. Coaching in the weak ACC >>>>> coaching in tSEC West.
Jimbo thinks differently
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"I think it stinks. I think the BCS and how we go with all these computers and all this stuff, I think we're ruining it," Fisher said. "I'm going to tell you what, the [impending] playoff which we have right now ain't going to solve it either. What's the playoff going to solve? I mean you've still got the same situation. They've got to change how we pick the top teams in this country.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:57 pm to The Nino
Why is this thread still here. Is Jimbo really considering the move? He would be an idiot to do so. FSU is the best place for him. Look at the talent he has there. It's way better than what Auburn has now.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:57 pm to The Nino
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"I think it stinks. I think the BCS and how we go with all these computers and all this stuff, I think we're ruining it," Fisher said. "I'm going to tell you what, the [impending] playoff which we have right now ain't going to solve it either. What's the playoff going to solve? I mean you've still got the same situation. They've got to change how we pick the top teams in this country.
He is absolutely right.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 5:04 pm to SabiDojo
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Why is this thread still here. Is Jimbo really considering the move?
Yes, they even mentioned on CFB Live today that Auburn would be a player for Jimbo.
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