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re: Has anyone heard that Crowton
Posted on 12/27/10 at 9:41 am to Captain Aubrey
Posted on 12/27/10 at 9:41 am to Captain Aubrey
Has U-La-La hired a HC yet? I heard early on that he may be "allowed" to take that job.
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Posted on 12/27/10 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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his offense and his patterns of playcalling have been studied cold and he's not goin to do ****** in the SEC any time soon. defenses know what plays we're running most of the time
I'm not convinced it's the other teams knowing his tendencies that have caused our O to derail. Although not an SEC team tOSU traditionally is among the better D's. They had over a month to prepare for us before the '07 SECCG - pleanty long enough to stidy GC's tendencies and he still toyed with them. Similiarly, apart from the OM game, our O played ok in '08. Teams had time to study his tendencies before the '08 season.
Somehow, the explanation lies beyond GC's tendencies.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 10:53 am to AlwysATgr
Posted on 12/27/10 at 11:34 am to Captain Aubrey
Hope not
Posted on 12/27/10 at 11:41 am to DeeHorton
agreed, crowton is doing a fantastic job, dee.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 11:51 am to The Egg
He has no skilled QB, give him one and pretty much leave him alone and we will be unbeatable
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:06 pm to DeeHorton
quote:Give anyone a skilled qb and they probably would be good. He has been given qbs, it's his job to make good ones out of them....
give him one and pretty much leave him alone and we will be unbeatable
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:07 pm to Third Degrre Bern
Yes mother of God sweet Jesus please oh please oh please oh please oh please.....pretty please...ple.....pl.....p...
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Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:41 pm to AlwysATgr
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I'm not convinced it's the other teams knowing his tendencies that have caused our O to derail. Although not an SEC team tOSU traditionally is among the better D's. They had over a month to prepare for us before the '07 SECCG - pleanty long enough to stidy GC's tendencies and he still toyed with them.
that offense was a mix of crowton's offense and jimbo's offense
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Similiarly, apart from the OM game, our O played ok in '08.
first year we transitioned to more of crowton's offense and less of jimbo's
in 09 and 10 we got to see gary's offense more and more, and we didn't exactly perform well
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:46 pm to DeeHorton
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He has no skilled QB, give him one and Crowton will frick him up
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes, but most coaches know how to change things up in playcalling/scheming to diffuse the study on the offense
crowton has failed at this
I don't buy this. And let me say I'm not a GC apologist, but it's not all on him. Has he called some bonehead plays at crucial times? Yes. But there are plenty of simple offensive schemes and philosophies that rely on great execution, period. Les wants to have a good running game and smashmouth offense. That doesn't require genius play-calling or strange formations. It requires guys to be coached up and to beat the guy in front of you. Good teams can execute offensively even when the defense knows what's coming. So quit acting like Crowton gets out studied or outschemed. Our offense needs to be tweaked, but we need to execute better at every position. No position is exempt.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:52 pm to amiznit
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He has no skilled QB, give him one and Crowton will frick him up
Seriously, how many QB coaches are capable of making a QB worse? The longer Jefferson was at LSU, the worse he got. And with Lee, things started going downhill fast post-Florida.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:54 pm to DEG
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quit acting like Crowton gets out studied or outschemed.
he does. The players can only do so much eventually the coaches get out schemed.
I swear it looks like Crowton doesn't even watch film on opponents.
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That doesn't require genius play-calling or strange formations.
yet Crowton uses strange formations and plays and fails miserably.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 12:59 pm to south bama tiger
As bad as they are this is a ridiculous statement Jefferson has improved and Lee isnt throwing a pic 6 every other pass so they have improved
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:01 pm to adammwilson
Adam
Cutting up each sentence and replying to it is so fricking tired.
If Crowton doesn't have a QB who has learned the plays or system, or loses his head when it comes time to make a read, it doesn't matter what the frick he calls, or how creative he becomes.
Cutting up each sentence and replying to it is so fricking tired.
If Crowton doesn't have a QB who has learned the plays or system, or loses his head when it comes time to make a read, it doesn't matter what the frick he calls, or how creative he becomes.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that offense was a mix of crowton's offense and jimbo's offense
people believing this is amazing.
ask yourself one question. If they ran a mix of jimbo's offense and g.c's offense and it was successful in 07. then ran g.c. offense and it wasn't successful, why wouldn't they just go back to the mix of jimbo's and g.c. offense?
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:10 pm to DEG
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If Crowton doesn't have a QB who has learned the plays or system,
then he should sit him and play another QB.
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or loses his head when it comes time to make a read
play another qb.
basically, any excuse used to defend him is bogus. If you want to blame it all on Jefferson then go for it but isn't Crowton to blame for not developing him and not replacing him?
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:14 pm to DeeHorton
quote:while not taking near as many sacks as last year, JJ has thrown for nearly 1/2 the yardage as last year and more than 2 times the INTs as last year... that's not improvement..
Jefferson has improved
quote:yes, JL is not throwing as many INTs, but he's still throwing off his back foot, many times moving backward...
Lee isnt throwing a pic 6 every other pass
quote:maybe in some small areas, but overall they have gotten worse....
they have improved
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:17 pm to dos crystal
quote:b/c jimbo is no longer here.... and if they are not going to run GC's offense, why in the world would you pay him to be the OC????
why wouldn't they just go back to the mix of jimbo's and g.c. offense?
Posted on 12/27/10 at 1:26 pm to TiegerTim
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b/c jimbo is no longer here.... and if they are not going to run GC's offense, why in the world would you pay him to be the OC????
if they ran it in 07, why did you pay g.c. to be the o.c.? why push jimbo out the door?
if they ran it in 07, why did they forget it since jimbo wasn't here?
if you know his play book and know how and when to call the play that works, then why not go back to it?
this logic makes no sense. plays are plays. if you know the play that will work in a situation and you know when to call that play, what difference does it make if it's a g.c. play or jimbo play? my point, if crowton ran a jimbo offense in 07, he obviously knew when and what play to call. i guess he just forgot.
coaches steal plays all the time. crowton got the pistol from the coach at nevada. the zone read from fran.
look at the wildcat, coaches from the n.f.l. and colleges all accross america stole that.
i just can't believe people come up with the jimbo offense in 07. that has to be the silliest thing i've heard.
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