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re: Can someone explain the Miami hate to me?

Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:01 am to
Florida State has all of Miami's positives and less of their negatives. They clearly make more sense. But Florida probably doesn't want them (or Miami fwiw.)
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:04 am to
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Florida State has all of Miami's positives and less of their negatives. They clearly make more sense.


agreed.
Posted by VOL61
VA
Member since Dec 2008
490 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:05 am to
The Miami talk is pointless. UF will never let that happen. UGA, UF, KY, SC AD's have each others back. They don't want FL St, Miami, Louisville, Clemson, Ga Tech. It will never happen.

Slive wanted Texas and A&M first. If he can't get both he will take A&M with Virginia Tech. If he can't get either. We may stand still. We may go after Missouri and VT. I think if we can't get one we stand.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:06 am to
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They don't want Louisville, Clemson, Ga Tech. It will never happen.


why?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46211 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:08 am to
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What, specifically, sucks about their fanbase?


1) 90% fairweather
2) They only show up on weekends the Dolphins have an away game
3) They don't tailgate
4) They sing their fight songs and cheers in Spanish
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:09 am to
It's pretty ghey how much of a soap opera this is amongst the ADs.

Posted by VOL61
VA
Member since Dec 2008
490 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:16 am to
They don't want those schools because UF , KY, UGA, SC are selling come to the home state school and play in the best conference in the country. And believe me it is a selling point. It makes it harder recruiting. And recruiting equals money because recruiting wins games.

As a UT fan it makes me a little nervous about Virginia Tech. Even though the thought of playing them every year is worth the risk. But Knoxville and Blacksburg are fairly close. They are recruiting alot of the same kids.

But again it comes down to money. TV deals national and local and regional. You don't want many schools in the same region as you. You want the best chance you can set yourself up for. These guys aren't stupid.
Posted by lpotterusa
Franklin, LA
Member since Mar 2006
456 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:19 am to
Does the SEC same state veto rule still exist?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:19 am to
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It makes it harder recruiting.

that's true. However, I think lately Clemson has been doing better than SC in recruiting anyway.

But you are right. I mean maybe A.J. Green would have gone to Clemson if Clemson was in the SEC at the time.
Posted by saspier
Member since Nov 2009
262 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:23 am to
Its all about tv markets. Florida already has most of the state of Florida. Miami really does not offer any outside market that the s e c does not have already.

Texas AM brings in some of the Houston, Dallas, and Austin tv markets.

Miami has nothing to offer right now that would help increase the tv dollars.
Posted by DudeofLSU
Member since Mar 2009
403 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:23 am to

It's not hate for Miami, it's just that the SEC doesn't need them for a simple reason - No added value:

If you own a 1,000 Subway restaurant in Louisiana do you keep opening new Subways in Louisiana or do you branch out to new territories...The SEC already has a strong foundation in Florida; not so much in Texas..


Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14944 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:26 am to
B/c we already have TV in Florida. I want the U I think it would be awesome, but they want to tap into North Carolina and Virgina to expand TV markets.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12445 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:27 am to
Well that's a good point about "only state school that plays in the best conference." But that assumes that the SEC stays the best conference. IMO, the Pac10 and BigTen are making steps to even the gap. We need to be proactive in acquiring the best schools possible for the good of the
conference, regardless of minor inconviences to individual schools.
Posted by VOL61
VA
Member since Dec 2008
490 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:29 am to
I honestly don't see the value in Virginia Tech either. Even though I do hope they end up in the SEC.

90% of their fans are east of Roanoke and there isn't any major markets that Tech could really claim. They do have a passionate fan base and travel well.

I hear talk of DC area and that is laughable.

But I do hope if anyone gets in Tech is one. I would love to get a shot at them every year.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:31 am to
1. Florida bring most of the TV market

2. Florida doesnt want them competing for recruits

THere are only 4 slots.

I dont want to waste one on Miami.
I want ADDITIONAL MARKET contiguous states.
NC, VA
Missouri,
TEX
Posted by bigjuice56
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Mar 2009
1139 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:39 am to
The big thing, as has already been stated, is to keep a sense of "common culture" in the conference. If we're going to expand, we need teams with similar traditions, fanbases, etc. This may not sound like a big deal, but when we're talking about the implosion of the Pac-16 ten years from now because Texas and its minions are tired of 1000 mile road trips, 10:30pm kickoffs, and not having anything in common with their conference "brothers", it'll be evident that money may be good for the short term, but there are other, more important factors to the long term success of conferences.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:49 am to
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Miami
[

quote]Do you really want to have to put up with those annoying fans? [/quote]

Brah...have you ever been to College Station?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:50 am to
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have you ever been to College Station?


true. But at least they are passionate.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26908 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:58 am to
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they don't fit in


+1000
Posted by TigerinDFW
Dallas
Member since Feb 2006
205 posts
Posted on 6/12/10 at 11:26 am to
Messicans?? Athlemed??

Are you serious? Cubans.
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