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re: It's becoming crystal clear... Missouri is the 14th team
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Bringing in Texas A&M and VT would add 10,930,410 new television households.
this is irrelevant unless we start out own cable channel
i don't know why people keep bringing it up
Really?
New markets bring new people watching your product. Your more popular product equals higher advertising rates. More advertising rates means more money for networks, including cbs/espn. More money for networks means more money for SEC schools. Not to mention schools getting more exposure in talent rich areas and the possibility of recruiting more from these areas in a peripheal view.
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:28 pm to The Virginian
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at Virginia politics would attempt to force the SEC to take UVA too
Give me Texas A&M and Mizzou in the West and I could live with that. I had no idea that UVa would even consider leaving the ACC.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:30 pm to Alahunter
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New markets bring new people watching your product.
the only real viewer bases are powerful programs
VT and Mizzou aren't big programs who have a ton of viewers to add
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More advertising rates means more money for networks, including cbs/espn. More money for networks means more money for SEC schools
our deal is 15 years long and is set. we get what we get
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Not to mention schools getting more exposure in talent rich areas and the possibility of recruiting more from these areas in a peripheal view.
missouri: no talent
SEC: already recruits the shite out of VA
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:31 pm to RhodeIslandRed
I think UVA wants to stay attached to VT more than anything else (from an alum's perspective). I have no idea what the UVA board of trustees are thinking.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:32 pm to The Virginian
I hope Missouri ends up in the Sunbelt for starting this shite.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:38 pm to Oklahoma Sooners
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I hope Texas and Oklahoma end up in the Sunbelt for starting this shite.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 2:48 pm to Oklahoma Sooners
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I hope Missouri ends up in the Sunbelt for starting this shite.
I'm gonna have to agree with the dirt-burgler on this one.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:09 pm to jsquardjj
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Then how would the east and west breakdown be?
WHAT ABOUT THIS?
SEC North
Arkansas
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Missouri
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
South Carolina
Texas A&M
OR HOW ABOUT THIS?
SEC North
Arkansas
Georgia
Kentucky
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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our deal is 15 years long and is set. we get what we get
Yes and no. It is for 15 yrs, but there are provisions to renegotiation if the conference were to expand.
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missouri: no talent
SEC: already recruits the shite out of VA
I agree with Missouri. Having an SEC team in Virginia brings alot more exposure than what we have now.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:14 pm to Lakebound
North and South Divisions won't work. The South would be way too loaded, while the North would be somewhat weak.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:14 pm to Alahunter
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but there are provisions to renegotiation if the conference were to expand.
no guarantee we will get more money per school or even break even if we try to expand
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Having an SEC team in Virginia brings alot more exposure than what we have now.
we don't need it...well, at least UF doesn't (they really do well in VA)
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:15 pm to Lakebound
Reading the VT message board...which sucked btw 
...I see that many Hokie fans fear that if VT turns down the SEC than Slive would invite WV instead.
And that would be their worst nightmare.
...I see that many Hokie fans fear that if VT turns down the SEC than Slive would invite WV instead. And that would be their worst nightmare.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:16 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
WV doesn't help the SEC, but that would hurt VT and UVA really badly
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no guarantee we will get more money per school or even break even if we try to expand
Companies that think like that get put out of business. If the SEC added 10 mil household viewing area to their base, they would be able to negotiate for more per school, at the least, they would get enough to pay for the increase of the 2 schools that joined.
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we don't need it...well, at least UF doesn't (they really do well in VA)
Again. Move forward or fall behind. SEC is at the top now and has been for awhile, but to ignore the changing landscape would be to ask for everyone else to improve while we go stagnant.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:19 pm to Alahunter
SEC expansion has gone horribly wrong if WVU gets any sort of invite, even in a 16 team league.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:20 pm to CunningLinguist
Unless Saban demands it.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:21 pm to Lakebound
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SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
South Carolina
Texas A&M
hellllll no
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:21 pm to Alahunter
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If the SEC added 10 mil household viewing area to their base, they would be able to negotiate for more per school
not really
not if those households don't watch CFB
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at the least, they would get enough to pay for the increase of the 2 schools that joined.
if all we get is the same money per school, expanding to include mediocre schools is a loss
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Again. Move forward or fall behind.
we're at the peak
we have developed the #1 model for success
i don't see why we're abandoning that model
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but to ignore the changing landscape
what has changed? NU is going to the big10. CU is going to the pac10. that's it
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ask for everyone else to improve while we go stagnant.
expansion doesn't mean improvement
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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not really
not if those households don't watch CFB
I'd think the powers that be would have more info on what advertising dollars they'd bring in than you or I on this, but if you have 10 million folks with tv watching habits, chances are you're going to pick up at least 10 percent to watch college football. Another million watchers at the base minimum is a huge pickup.
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if all we get is the same money per school, expanding to include mediocre schools is a loss
I don't think A&M will remain mediocre forever, they've got a good history. Va Tech, although ACC, still averages 10 wins a season. Not mediocre.
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we're at the peak
And won't stay there with the status quo.
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we have developed the #1 model for success
By expanding originally.
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i don't see why we're abandoning that model
We'd actually be following that model.
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expansion doesn't mean improvement
If done wisely, it does. See 1992.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:28 pm to heartbreakTiger
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rex just had to make sure he started a stupid thread on the new board. congrats rex shitty threads on every board in td history
so true
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