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Chicken f'kn little syndrome
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:15 pm
Listen, Brian Kelly has been a head football coach for 30+ years. If y'all don't think that he has/had a plan upon getting hired by LSU, then you're incorrect. Nothing in his entire head coaching career shows otherwise. He's got a giant Rolodex of coaches to call on, both from his coaching tree and not. There's a reason he's had massive amounts of success at every single stop. It's because along with being an incredibly capable football coach himself, he can get quality coaches to come coach under him and buy in. You don't win 75% of your games by luck.
He develops a plan, then goes out there and executes that plan. Compared to the two previous head coach, who could not hire a single coach himself of any repute to come here and coach for him, I feel like we're in an ok spot with the new one.
Maybe Raymond didn't want to get on board and go along with the plan? Maybe Raymond tried to strong arm Kelly into promoting him. All I know is, in order to have sustained success at a high level in any field, everybody must be pulling in the same direction. If you've got people wanting to go their own way, do their own thing, not get with the program, you cut em loose or let em leave. Want to know the one constant at Alabama? Saban. Want to know the one constant in New England? Belichick. Want to know the one constant of the Yankees of the late 90s-2000s? Torre.
Behind every highly successful organization, there is always one person at the top forcing everybody in to pull in the same direction. I think Kelly is that guy here.
And hey, maybe Kelly ain't that guy. That's the risk you take when you make a new hire at the helm. But I feel like we got it right this go around. Kelly has the personality and the cache to get everybody going in the same direction as is evident by his 30+ years of success.
He develops a plan, then goes out there and executes that plan. Compared to the two previous head coach, who could not hire a single coach himself of any repute to come here and coach for him, I feel like we're in an ok spot with the new one.
Maybe Raymond didn't want to get on board and go along with the plan? Maybe Raymond tried to strong arm Kelly into promoting him. All I know is, in order to have sustained success at a high level in any field, everybody must be pulling in the same direction. If you've got people wanting to go their own way, do their own thing, not get with the program, you cut em loose or let em leave. Want to know the one constant at Alabama? Saban. Want to know the one constant in New England? Belichick. Want to know the one constant of the Yankees of the late 90s-2000s? Torre.
Behind every highly successful organization, there is always one person at the top forcing everybody in to pull in the same direction. I think Kelly is that guy here.
And hey, maybe Kelly ain't that guy. That's the risk you take when you make a new hire at the helm. But I feel like we got it right this go around. Kelly has the personality and the cache to get everybody going in the same direction as is evident by his 30+ years of success.
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:16 pm to grizzlylongcut
Oh lord, here come the alters.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:19 pm to grizzlylongcut
Trying to convince the panicky, short-sighted, emotionally triggered, low educated reactionary contingent of the Tiger Rant to calm down is wasting your time. They will all be convinced that the program is forever going to shite because that’s just the way they are wired.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:22 pm to grizzlylongcut
Logic won’t go ever well here where the majority of posters are miserable POS that just want to perpetually complain
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
"He's got a giant Rolodex of coaches to call on . . . ."
This may be true in terms of quantity, but it's definitely not true with respect to quality. His staffs his first 7 years at ND were filled with GVSU and CMU cronies and were extremely weak. After going 4-8 in 2016, cleaning house was a condition of him not getting fired. He replaced both coordinators and for his last 5 years at ND generally assembled much better staffs. But for Mike Elko orchestrating a massive turnaround on D in 2017, Kelly would have been fired. You should hope 2016 was a wake up call and a realization of what it takes to compete at the highest levels. If he reverts back to his 2010-2016 hiring practices, he will fail at LSU. I'm very curious to see who he brings in as his coordinators. I think that will be very telling.
This may be true in terms of quantity, but it's definitely not true with respect to quality. His staffs his first 7 years at ND were filled with GVSU and CMU cronies and were extremely weak. After going 4-8 in 2016, cleaning house was a condition of him not getting fired. He replaced both coordinators and for his last 5 years at ND generally assembled much better staffs. But for Mike Elko orchestrating a massive turnaround on D in 2017, Kelly would have been fired. You should hope 2016 was a wake up call and a realization of what it takes to compete at the highest levels. If he reverts back to his 2010-2016 hiring practices, he will fail at LSU. I'm very curious to see who he brings in as his coordinators. I think that will be very telling.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:48 am to TigerLunatik
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Oh lord, here come the alters.
I mean, it does nobody any good by freaking the frick out over Raymond, or Johnson, or Smith, or anybody leaving. It's going to take a strong personality to get everybody going in the same direction. Nobody should be above reproach. Yes, that also includes the players.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:53 am to grizzlylongcut
I love these threads.
I mean I love the Kelly hire, but these threads always make me laugh. Like people with a different opinion are going to read your wall of rambling and decide to change their mind. I’m sure the aggressive title will do the trick.
I mean I love the Kelly hire, but these threads always make me laugh. Like people with a different opinion are going to read your wall of rambling and decide to change their mind. I’m sure the aggressive title will do the trick.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:03 am to LSUcajun77
Does absolutely no good to freak the frick out when the guy hasn't even been here a month.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:05 am to grizzlylongcut
All educated people agree with this. Actually, it should go without saying, but we are dealing with tRant here.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:01 am to Florida Horn
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"He's got a giant Rolodex of coaches to call on . . . ."
This may be true in terms of quantity, but it's definitely not true with respect to quality. His staffs his first 7 years at ND were filled with GVSU and CMU cronies and were extremely weak.
You sir are a moron. Please note the following:
2010 Original Staff at ND
DC Bob Diaco - 4 years at ND and left to become HC at UConn
OC Charley Molnar - 2 years at ND and left to become HC at UMass
DL Mike Elston - 12 years at ND current DL coach
DB Chuck Martin - 4 years at ND left to become the HC at Miami of Ohio
OL Ed Warrinner 2 years at ND left to become the Co-OC/OL coach at Ohio State
TE Mike Denbrock 7 years at ND left to become the OC at Cincy
WR Tony Alford 6 years at ND left to become AHC/RB coach at Ohio State
RB Tim Hinton 34 years of coaching experience left to become special asst to HC at Ohio State
OLB Kerry Cooks 7 years at ND Part of purge left to become Co-DC for Bob Stoops at OU.
3 of 9 became head coaches, 3 ended up being hired at OSU (Alford still there), one still at ND, one is the OC at Cincy and Cooks in now at LSU.
2011 no changes to coaching staff
2012 Molnar, Warrinner and Hinton left
OL Harry Hiestand 6 years at ND left to become OL coach of Chicago Bears
TE Scott Booker 7 years at ND Moved to Nebraska for a year then on to the Tennessee Titans.
S Bob Elliott coached for 3 years at ND, moved to Special Asst to Kelly for 2 years due to a 20 year battle with blood cancer that required kidney transplant and died in 2017.
Nothing weak in those coaches. Kelly knows coaches.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:23 pm to Curtis Lowe
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Nothing weak in those coaches. Kelly knows coaches.
It's almost as if a good coach can spot other good coaches.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:25 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Does absolutely no good to freak the frick out when the guy hasn't even been here a month.
agree but most our fanbase are football ignorant and prefer shouting their over reactionary hyperbole from their keyboards.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:26 pm to Sampson
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:26 pm to White Tiger
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All educated people agree with this. Actually, it should go without saying, but we are dealing with tRant here.
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