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Have a water well question.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:57 pm
Had a guy to abandon a deep well (140’) on my place. Has an open 6 inch pvc pipe at ground level. It’s been exposed the last couple of years to potential leaves and some dirt. A well guy told me that you couldn’t pump any debris out if any was in it, thus a lost cause to use.
Is this the case?
Thx
Is this the case?
Thx
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:12 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Had my well pump house redone a couple of years ago and the well guys pumped or scooped the bottom and removed some small debris. Not sure exactly what they used. My well is over 100 ft deep.
Maybe they don't have the equipment or just want to charge you to drill a new well.
Maybe they don't have the equipment or just want to charge you to drill a new well.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:26 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Youtube has multiple videos on the subject.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:53 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
If you have another source of running water nearby, what if you put a water hose in the pipe and filled with water somehow to get all the debris to float up?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 4:28 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Obviously the guy is in the business of selling new wells.
Cleaning out the trash that may be in the well is not simple but it can be readily accomplished if there is adequate desire to do so. The old fashioned way would be with a "Mud Bucket" as our ancestors used to clean and deepen hand made wells.
The one that I inherited with the farm that I bought 60 years ago was made with 5 inch stove pipe about 4 feet or so long with a strap iron lifting loop riveted to the inside of the top end and a 3 1/2 inch thick wooden plug that was nailed into the bottom. The wooden plug had a hole through the center that was about 2 1/2 inches or so in diameter and there was a thick leather flap valve, shaped somewhat like a section of the sole of a boot, and somewhat smaller than the pipe diameter but more than adequate to cover the 2 1/2 inch hole. This flap valve was fastened as a hinge at one edge on the top side of the plug. The bottom side of the wooden plug was tapered as a cone to readily admit mud or sand and about 3/8 inch of the edge of the stove pipe was curled over to help protect the bottom edge of the wooden plug
The mud bucket could be utilized to lift water from the well but it's primary purpose was for cleaning or deepening a well. Cleaning or deepening a well was accomplished by lowering the bucket into the well with a rope and then when it reached the bottom, the bucket was pumped alternately up and down to agitate the material on the bottom and cause it to enter the bucket thru the flap valve. After multiple strokes up and down a quantity of mud. sand or debris would accumulate in the bucket and it could often be felt in the increasing effort required to pump the bucket. The bucket is then retrieved from the well with the rope and the contents dumped before sending it back down for another load.
In your situation, if you decide to try this, I would recommend a bucket made of a little heavier steel tubing and only about three feet long. The additional weight of the heavier steel would make the bucket's action more aggressive and could provide better results.
Have Fun!
Cleaning out the trash that may be in the well is not simple but it can be readily accomplished if there is adequate desire to do so. The old fashioned way would be with a "Mud Bucket" as our ancestors used to clean and deepen hand made wells.
The one that I inherited with the farm that I bought 60 years ago was made with 5 inch stove pipe about 4 feet or so long with a strap iron lifting loop riveted to the inside of the top end and a 3 1/2 inch thick wooden plug that was nailed into the bottom. The wooden plug had a hole through the center that was about 2 1/2 inches or so in diameter and there was a thick leather flap valve, shaped somewhat like a section of the sole of a boot, and somewhat smaller than the pipe diameter but more than adequate to cover the 2 1/2 inch hole. This flap valve was fastened as a hinge at one edge on the top side of the plug. The bottom side of the wooden plug was tapered as a cone to readily admit mud or sand and about 3/8 inch of the edge of the stove pipe was curled over to help protect the bottom edge of the wooden plug
The mud bucket could be utilized to lift water from the well but it's primary purpose was for cleaning or deepening a well. Cleaning or deepening a well was accomplished by lowering the bucket into the well with a rope and then when it reached the bottom, the bucket was pumped alternately up and down to agitate the material on the bottom and cause it to enter the bucket thru the flap valve. After multiple strokes up and down a quantity of mud. sand or debris would accumulate in the bucket and it could often be felt in the increasing effort required to pump the bucket. The bucket is then retrieved from the well with the rope and the contents dumped before sending it back down for another load.
In your situation, if you decide to try this, I would recommend a bucket made of a little heavier steel tubing and only about three feet long. The additional weight of the heavier steel would make the bucket's action more aggressive and could provide better results.
Have Fun!
Posted on 8/10/24 at 4:28 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Damn!!
Another one of those "Post Quantity and Quality Check" notices that automatically results in an automatic double post.
Another one of those "Post Quantity and Quality Check" notices that automatically results in an automatic double post.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 4:42 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Inject water down your 6” pipe till it runs clear.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:36 pm to chrome1007
Thanks to all for the advice.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:05 pm to HeadedToTheWoods
Wonder if the casing was broken off and fell into the well? Or was the casing and jet pulled and just left open? I’d bet the casing broke and fell into well which would
Be your best case scenario. Retrieve broke off casing with overshot tool. When you tie onto broken casing with overshot you will pull all casing out of well. At the end of the casing
You have what’s called a jet. On the end of the jet you have two leathers that seal off the jet inside the pipe. So you when you remove casing from the well all the trash will come out with the casing as it’s being pulled cause it can’t fall past the leathers on the jet.
Be your best case scenario. Retrieve broke off casing with overshot tool. When you tie onto broken casing with overshot you will pull all casing out of well. At the end of the casing
You have what’s called a jet. On the end of the jet you have two leathers that seal off the jet inside the pipe. So you when you remove casing from the well all the trash will come out with the casing as it’s being pulled cause it can’t fall past the leathers on the jet.
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