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22x22x4 concrete pad for shop. Average cost
Posted on 10/13/24 at 5:01 am
Posted on 10/13/24 at 5:01 am
Anyone had any concrete work done recently. I’m trying to get an idea how much it would cost in north la.
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Posted on 10/13/24 at 5:46 am to bulldog95
Find a Mexican to do it.
Needed concrete to increase our back patio area to include a 8x8 hot tub.
These two Mexican dudes did all the prep work, pouring and smoothing within a day. They even put in steps we didn't ask for because we initially thought the drop off would be minimal.
They did it all for $3500 over 3 years ago. Not a single crack in over 1,000 days.
Total area is probably 450 square feet.
Needed concrete to increase our back patio area to include a 8x8 hot tub.
These two Mexican dudes did all the prep work, pouring and smoothing within a day. They even put in steps we didn't ask for because we initially thought the drop off would be minimal.
They did it all for $3500 over 3 years ago. Not a single crack in over 1,000 days.
Total area is probably 450 square feet.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:28 pm to bulldog95
Just paid $10K for a 20X20 in north Louisiana.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:02 pm to geauxbrown
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Just paid $10K for a 20X20 in north Louisiana.
Damn that sounds a little high. I would expect $3600 on the top end.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 10/13/24 at 11:02 pm to highcotton2
Should figure $9 a foot
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:21 am to TideSaint
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Find a Mexican to do it.
frick that. No one is allowed in my property that can't speak the Queen's English.
That attitude is why we're inundated with illegals across our southern border. I'd absolutely lose my fricking mind if i heard Spanish being uttered on my American soil.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 1:27 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:23 am to geauxbrown
How thick
Posted on 10/14/24 at 6:19 am to bulldog95
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How thick
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22x22x4
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:32 am to bulldog95
Been around the business for a while. And I'm going to make one suggestion. Go 6" instead of 4". I have seen literally 1000 plus 4" shop slabs crack and have issues. with and without wire. Its just too thin even with the best clay foundations and compaction curves.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:02 am to One More Shot
I was going to say the same thing. You also need a little bit of a footer around the edges, at least 12" deeper than the slab. You bringing in dirt to build up a pad too? I'd say ballpark around $7500-$9500
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:56 pm to bulldog95
RS Means for 484 square feet non-industrial 4 inch slab all is $5276. That includes minor grading, gravel, steel, forming, placing 3000 pound concrete, finishing, expansion joints - pretty much all in. That is JUST the slab itself - you will most likely have a monolithic pour with some sort of footing depending on codes and soil conditions. Typically around 8 inches wide and 12 inches deep. RS Means for average footings of that type is $2706. This is all direct pour from a concrete truck. Thats $7982.
This is the RS Means cost, on average, in a mid-sized city in the south. Its also part of a building cost....it would be about 10% higher for just a slab BUT that would be an industrial / commercial contractor with substantial bonding capacity (virtually unlimited) and associated higher overhead and profit resulting in being a legit business operating on legit projects - not the same as a couple of old boys with a bull float and a pick-up truck.
Very few contractors would use that number if they wanted the work. RS Means is notoriously high - but it is pretty close to what the portion of a project will cost, on average, without any project or contractor adders.
I would bet that in most parts of the country, with larger cities not included, the cost would be somewhere between $6,000 and $9,000. LOTS of variables in there though, market conditions, legitimacy of contractor, contractor work load....lots of variables. Good luck.
This is the RS Means cost, on average, in a mid-sized city in the south. Its also part of a building cost....it would be about 10% higher for just a slab BUT that would be an industrial / commercial contractor with substantial bonding capacity (virtually unlimited) and associated higher overhead and profit resulting in being a legit business operating on legit projects - not the same as a couple of old boys with a bull float and a pick-up truck.
Very few contractors would use that number if they wanted the work. RS Means is notoriously high - but it is pretty close to what the portion of a project will cost, on average, without any project or contractor adders.
I would bet that in most parts of the country, with larger cities not included, the cost would be somewhere between $6,000 and $9,000. LOTS of variables in there though, market conditions, legitimacy of contractor, contractor work load....lots of variables. Good luck.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:59 pm to geauxbrown
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Just paid $10K for a 20X20 in north Louisiana.
That sounds high BUT...depending on the market and contractor it is not crazy high. One off projects are more expensive than the same amount of work as part of a larger project. Contractors also charge more for one off projects because they interfere with ongoing projects...only so many hours in the day, if you're pulling 3 men off a larger project to go do a one off it requires deployment costs etc. If equipment is involved its can really cost the contractor a bunch. They also know that most home owners aren't necessarily market savvy....and price work accordingly.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:01 pm to El Segundo Guy
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frick that. No one is allowed in my property that can't speak the Queen's English.
That attitude is why we're inundated with illegals across our southern border. I'd absolutely lose my fricking mind if i heard Spanish being uttered on my American soil.
Chances are pretty damn high that if you are paying a contractor to place concrete their employees are going to speak Spanish fluently. Where they hail from is anyone's guess but most likely going to be some hispanic influence in just about every corner of the US.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:09 pm to One More Shot
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Been around the business for a while. And I'm going to make one suggestion. Go 6" instead of 4". I have seen literally 1000 plus 4" shop slabs crack and have issues. with and without wire. Its just too thin even with the best clay foundations and compaction curves.
We pour 4 inch thick slabs for light vehicle traffic on a regular basis without any issues - however - we also have specs that require compaction testing of the soil and gravel under the slab and have independent QC techs present when testing is done. MOST small contractors will compact the soil and gravel by feel without any real testing. This mostly works but it can lead to problems. Cracking isn't necessarily a "bad" thing. If the slab has a proper footing and has proper reinforcement a crack is unsightly but seldom catastrophic. Adding 2 inches is not overly expensive....it is about 3.5 yards more concrete so about $700 or so of material but dragging 6 inches is not much more labor intensive than 4 and finishing is about the same. 4 and 6 actually means 3.5 and 5.5 by the way...
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:16 pm to TideSaint
quote:
Find a Mexican to do it.
Needed concrete to increase our back patio area to include a 8x8 hot tub.
These two Mexican dudes did all the prep work, pouring and smoothing within a day. They even put in steps we didn't ask for because we initially thought the drop off would be minimal.
They did it all for $3500 over 3 years ago. Not a single crack in over 1,000 days.
Total area is probably 450 square feet.
In all seriousness unless it was a LOT of grading involved for 484 square feet and 396 feet of footings I would grade and dig footings by hand, spread and compact gravel by hand, form it, place steel...all DIY and order the concrete after I had proceeded to a housing development and started asking if anyone who was pouring concrete if they wanted to make a couple of thousand dollars cash. Chances are pretty good you'd have more than enough interested parties and could get it done for about $3500 or less all in. It is hard work but it is not complex. For 484 square feet I used to would have placed it and finished it myself but I am too old to be dragging back concrete.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:34 pm to bulldog95
About $8 a sq ft.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:22 am to AwgustaDawg
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For 484 square feet I used to would have placed it and finished it myself but I am too old to be dragging back concrete.
10-15 years ago I’d have done the whole project myself. Now the extra $$$$ to have someone else do it is well worth the strain on my back and knees
Friend of mine quoted me $4200 give or take a few $100
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:39 am to bulldog95
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10-15 years ago I’d have done the whole project myself. Now the extra $$$$ to have someone else do it is well worth the strain on my back and knees
Friend of mine quoted me $4200 give or take a few $100
I would bet that is a pretty good price....it would be in my area.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:38 pm to El Segundo Guy
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frick that. No one is allowed in my property that can't speak the Queen's English.
That attitude is why we're inundated with illegals across our southern border. I'd absolutely lose my fricking mind if i heard Spanish being uttered on my American soil.
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El Segundo
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:39 pm to AwgustaDawg
Got the actual estimate today.$3600 if they can get the cement truck in $4000 if the gotta use a hand truck
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