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Is our defense that bad or is Washington O' that good?

Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:29 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:29 pm
I know defense last year was the main problem. On paper it looks like we have studs out there, but we were run on easily and passed on. It of course got better as the night wore on. Just a worrisome year and I honestly don't see us doing much better than last year. I of course would love to be wrong.

Our QB position is still a work in progress. But you have to give a guy who looks that good on paper (at 6'5" and appears to be mobile) a little room to grow. Seems to me Scott could be a major part of letting him grow? How many touches did he get last night? Seems to me he could be a pro style bruiser who needs 20+ carries to get rolling. Just never seemed to get it going after a couple solid runs early. Was this due to Washington adjustments or is the O' Line shakey as well?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13444 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:31 pm to
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Is our defense that bad or is Washington O' that good?


The defense had some really bright spots... but a combination of...

no pressure from the ends, poor play from the safeties, and extremely conservative defensive playcalling on 3rd downs was a bad combination.

Oh, and Washington played extremely well.
Posted by EasyE
Metairie
Member since Mar 2006
350 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:31 pm to
locker is the real deal. but tt will kill us if they dont tighten up. the def can and will improve
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4176 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:33 pm to
im just sick of hearing that after every fricking game

too many mediocre offenses have field days against us

good defenses shouldnt allow that shite, obviously we dont have a good d

that said, Locker is that good, also they had an adv b/c they have a new offense and we couldnt have prepared properly for it
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27614 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:39 pm to
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im just sick of hearing that after every fricking game

too many mediocre offenses have field days against us

good defenses shouldnt allow that shite, obviously we dont have a good d



This point again brings up Scott. Shouldn't we become a run first team? Maybe even a run second team? This would take care of a QB that is still growing and keep a shakey defense rested and off the field. Do we just not have the personnel to pull it off? Are we not trying? You obviously have to throw to keep a defense honest, but throw when the defense cheats up and run otherwise. Don't go away from running just for the sake of forcing a balanced attack.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469613 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:40 pm to
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Shouldn't we become a run first team? Maybe even a run second team?

only if we can run

last night our interior OL was manhandled
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13444 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:42 pm to
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only if we can run


Run calling was very transparent... and UW was keying on lead-runs. The playaction bootleg was open all night. The coaches just have to see that and take advantage of it.

And to be fair... Scott isn't making the yardage on his own that he's used to. Plus a revolving door at FB and a completely ineffective 2-TE single-back set doesn't help.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27614 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:42 pm to
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only if we can run

last night our interior OL was manhandled



That is what I am asking. Is it personnel? He seemed to have success running off tackle early on. Nothing wrong with 4 yards in a cloud of dust if able to get it. Boring yes. But who cares if it puts points up and lets a defense rest and a young QB breathe.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469613 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm to
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Scott isn't making the yardage on his own that he's used to. Plus a revolving door at FB and a completely ineffective 2-TE single-back set doesn't help.

agree 100%

but the question is, do we still rely on these formations b/c miles feels he HAS to run inside

scott fumbled and was benched, but we still ran inside (trindon and murphy) for most of the game after that
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:44 pm to
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obviously we dont have a good d


its the 1st game of the season, nothing is obvious yet
Posted by Raparooot
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2009
3622 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13444 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:46 pm to
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but the question is, do we still rely on these formations b/c miles feels he HAS to run inside


I think there are 2 guys on the squad right now that can get that tough yardage (Ridley and potentially Allen) even if Scott isn't that bull he can be.

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we still ran inside (trindon and murphy) for most of the game after that


Jefferson and KW looked good on the speed option out of the shotgun. Why we run that play to the shortside of the field every time is still beyond me.
Posted by Raparooot
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2009
3622 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:47 pm to
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Jefferson and KW looked good on the speed option out of the shotgun. Why we run that play to the shortside of the field every time is still beyond me.

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Uh... Maybe because it works?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13444 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:50 pm to
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Uh... Maybe because it works?


I think it has more to do with ball security, and the likelihood that a mishandled pitch will find its way out-of-bounds... but the sideline also provides the D with a 12th man.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469613 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:51 pm to
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Maybe because it works?

so it's impossible that it might work better on the long side of the field?
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
6352 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:52 pm to
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Is our defense that bad or is Washington O' that good?


Watching the game last night reminded me alot of the '05 Zona State game where a new LSU DC had his hands full with a mobile QB, competent running game, and visiting crowd revved up.

That defense turned out OK in the end, let's hope this one does the same.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33383 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:52 pm to
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only if we can run

last night our interior OL was manhandled


Yeah...but what about pass protection...it was awful last night
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469613 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:53 pm to
barksdale was horrid

he whiffed on every blitz and stunt
Posted by Raparooot
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2009
3622 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:54 pm to
If it ain't broken don't fix it. SlowFlowPro you need a frickin' nap dude. Geez.
Posted by LSUFan12
Prairieville, LA
Member since Aug 2008
47 posts
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:54 pm to
All LSU has to do is score more points than the other team and they should win...
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