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Let's Get Down To It: It's Been Conditioning & The Trenches

Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:51 am
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
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Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:51 am
over the last two seasons, injuries have exploded for us .. we look tired and worn out in the fourth quarter ... and are just plain getting whipped up front on both sides of the ball ... the offensive line has been atrocious this season ... charles scott was mentioned in the heisman conversations in the preseason but was finding a wall of bodies almost everytime he touched the ball ... no running game + a scared, young QB = disaster ...

sure, this team may very well finish 10-3/9-4 .. but you have to look ahead at where this program is headed ... we won the national championship in 2007 .. nick saban took over an alabama program with a dying talent pool in the same season ... in two short years, the tables have turned on us up front ... i really don't think this staff is recruiting as well as we think they are ... our marketability on the recruiting trail has taken a huge hit .. saban and alabama are on the upswing, lane kiffin and UT are moving up .. bobby petrino is getting his act together at arkansas and dan mullen isn't half bad at mississippi state ... in the world of "buy" and "sell" on the recruiting circuit .. les miles has brought us to a "sell" in two short seasons ..

what has happened to our conditioning ?? under saban, the program was a stickler for the offseason weight and conditioning program ... saban's teams were going to be fresher and stronger than the opposition in the fourth quarter ... that has suddenly drifted away too and we have gotten hit with the types of injuries that poor conditioning leads to ...
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2520 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:53 am to
Same Strength Coach....

Tommy Moffit
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:55 am to
not a conditioning problem coaching problem no fire no swagger
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:55 am to
this is what blows me the frick away ..
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:56 am to
Alot of what you say has some validity but the S&C coach is the same one Saban had & tried to get him to go to Alabama with him.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:56 am to
quote:

not a conditioning problem coaching problem no fire no swagger


then why in the hell are we tired with little to no life in the fourth quarter .. no pressure on the QB .. even sending 6 and 7 men we are not getting there ..
Posted by TigahRag
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Alot of what you say has some validity but the S&C coach is the same one Saban had & tried to get him to go to Alabama with him


exactly .. this is what i can't understand ! this starts and ends with miles .. he isn't staying on top of the strength and conditioning off season .. there's only so much moffit can do ... he is only going to condition the team to the level his "boss" expects ..
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 7:58 am
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:58 am to
think if u dont trust your head coach are you going to play your hearts out
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180157 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:58 am to
quote:

teams were going to be fresher and stronger than the opposition in the fourth quarter


That showed when we played Bama IMO. They definitely had the upper hand in that department.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23112 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:59 am to
If you even THINK about criticizing Moffit on here, be careful...
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:02 am to
quote:

That showed when we played Bama IMO. They definitely had the upper hand in that department.


there was NO doubt alabama was the better conditioned team in the second half .. that is why saban started feeding the ball to mark ingram .. he knew there was no way the d-line or linebackers get a hand on him ..
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:02 am to
It's the Head Coach, that's where the buck stops, and he's making big bucks right now.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:03 am to
quote:

If you even THINK about criticizing Moffit on here, be careful...


once again, at the end of the day, he's only going to do what his "boss" tells him to do ...
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:04 am to
moffit is a great coach miles
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:04 am to
quote:

It's the Head Coach, that's where the buck stops, and he's making big bucks right now.


and you have to wonder how much animosity has seeped in amongst the players and staff ... you know most of them realize miles is NOT worth that much money and is basically luckier than a montana lottery winner to get all of that ..
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:06 am to
i agree he makes too much money to be a screw up
Posted by tie1on
Maryland
Member since Nov 2005
106 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:47 am to
Absolutely agree with Tiger Rag and Stout and was going to post similar comments asking what, if anything changed this year in the conditioning regimine. We looked worn down (offense and defense)within the second quarter! against Bama. Florida's entire team looked "tighter" and more nimble than our guys.
- I seem to remember Saban introducing Palates or Yoga during the off season. Is that still in place?
- Definite fan of Moffit and know what he's capable of, but interested to understand if the conditioning program changed over the past year
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:50 am to
I agree with the original post.

Think about the Bama game. It used to be LSU who casued the other teams to cart people off the field all game long. Now we hvae a long list of injuries just in the past 3 weeks. This week, we'll be down to the 4th string RB from the beginning of the year.

Teams are psuing us around at the LOS. Its been going on all year.

Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Definite fan of Moffit


+1

quote:

but interested to understand if the conditioning program changed over the past year


there is no doubt that it has ... i think it is in the attention to detail .. the little things ...
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