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What Would Tolkien Have Thought of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy?

Posted on 5/29/11 at 7:46 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 7:46 pm
I have always wondered what famous deceased artists would think of what has become of their product years after their death. For example, what would Tolkien think of the Lord of the Rings trilogy? Walt Disney and the expansion of his theme parks and films? Jim Henson and the state of the Muppets? etc. Do you think they would approve of the creative liberties those who followed in their foot-steps took?
This post was edited on 5/29/11 at 8:08 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:10 pm to
"Where the frick is Tom Bombadil?"
Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

"Where the frick is Tom Bombadil?"


One of my favorite parts of the entire trilogy.
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:13 pm to
I'm sure Tolkien would find many things "different" with the movies, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Every writer or artist has a vision that cannot possibly be entirely understood by anyone else.
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:13 pm to
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"Where the frick is Tom Bombadil?"


And "Not enough exposition!" He'd scan the DVD for an appendix.

Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:15 pm to
Tolkien's work, except for The Hobbit, was extremely meticulous and read almost more like a history than a novel (although that was his intention). His style would be very difficult to translate into film, but that is true for any literature.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:16 pm to
I think he would have been ok with it. A lot was left out, but not anything that wasnt filler for the story.

Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:17 pm to
I know that author's often have creative differences with film makers (ex: Peter Benchley with Jaws) but they still enjoy the end result. I imagine he felt that no one could ever do justice to a book of that scope especially at the time it was written so to see what he accomplished I imagine must be somewhat impressive to him.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

He'd scan the DVD for an appendix

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:50 pm to
Aside from Tom Bombadil, I think he would have liked Fellowship, but there is little doubt that he would have hated the later two. He would not have tolerated the omission of the scorning of the shire.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:52 pm to
Extended edition, bruh.
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:54 pm to
He has that badass moment where he kills the wights in the Great Barrow, though.
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:55 pm to
Tim Benzadrine > Tom Bombadil
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:57 pm to
Even Tolkien admitted he didn't know what Tom was. I used to think he was Eru manifest, but that's just an explanation for a question with no answer.
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 9:02 pm to
He represented the mystery of the forest itself... Places in the world with unexplainable magic or darkness.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 9:26 pm to
I'm sure he would have loved the royalty checks.

Seriously, I think he would have liked some parts - Boramir's whole arc, especially his death was very impressive. Other parts, including most of the Faramir stuff, would have probably disappointed him a little.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

he Faramir stuff
they ruined Faromir's character.

Bombadil is no big loss. Scouring is a major disappointment.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 11:31 pm to
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Extended edition, bruh.


None of my points are contained within these. I've watched the EE at least 5 times. Tolkein would still be pissed about those changes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

they ruined Faromir's character.


In the Extended Edition, Faramirs character is far more sympathetic and have no idea why they removed the scene where it explains his motivations. It's a great scene, probably my second favorite in that film (only next to Gollum arguing with himself).
Posted by Daygo85
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:44 am to
One thing that I believe Tolkien would be proud of is the use dialogue in the movie. It was very close to his writing.
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