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VT best fit for SEC

Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:36 am
Posted by RighteousTiger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:36 am
Forgive if Nazis, but to me Virginia Tech, by far, is the best fit when it comes to what they bring to table overall. On top of athletics and good alumni fanbase and tradition, it is a very solid academic institution. Much better than the likes of the other 14th member options: WVU, TCU, SoFla, Clemson.
Its also one of the newest members of the ACC, so they do not have any solid roots to the conference.
Why isn't the SEC going after the Hokies?
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 4:37 am
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:38 am to
quote:

Why isn't the SEC going after the Hokies.


$20 million buy-out unanimously approved by ACC presidents.


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Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15819 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:40 am to
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even though they are the newest addition to the ACC, do they not still have the $20m buyout? I think that's the main thing keeping the SEC from pursuing ANY teams from the ACC right now.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:51 am to
technically, the SEC isn't pursuing any teams. The teams apply the SEC

of course there's a lot of backroom dealing but that's how it "plays out"

And if they want into the SEC badly enough, they'll pay the $20 million.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15819 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:00 am to
In addition to that, if the SEC finds themselves an attraction application (from FSU or VT), then the SEC might agree to pay some or half of the $20m.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:31 am to
I don't know why people act like the $20 million buyout is an absolute deal breaker. TAMU's was/is going to range from 12-15 million. I find it hard to believe that an extra 5-8 million would prevent the SEC from accepting a school that it wants. Or prevent the school from being able to come up with an extra bit of money from boosters who don't want their football program stuck in a basketball conference.

Also, all board votes are "unanimous" for the most part. There's often an informal vote, followed by a unanimous formal vote. Doesn't mean that some didn't oppose it or raise objections. Doesn't mean they did either. It's just not as concrete as some people are making it out to be.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:42 am to
quote:

In addition to that, if the SEC finds themselves an attraction application (from FSU or VT), then the SEC might agree to pay some or half of the $20m.



Slive is doing a bunch of maneuvering to avoid the legal ramifications that Baylor and their minions would try to bring onto to the SEC. If money is not an issue then Slive would've just brought in A&M unconditionally since they are more attractive than VT or FSU. This isn't the NFL. $20 million is still a lot of money in college athletics.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22910 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:48 am to
quote:

$20 million buy-out unanimously approved by ACC presidents.

Why is this little detail so lightly and habitually overlooked in the parade of naming ACC teams that would be a "best fit?"

Oh, now I understand...
quote:

I don't know why people act like the $20 million buyout is an absolute deal breaker.
Of course, it makes perfect sense - I hadn't realized Donald Trump ($$$$) and Bill Gates ($$$$) or their heirs were posting along these threads.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 5:58 am
Posted by Tokyeaux
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 7:01 am to
virginia tech is the perfect sec school in everything but name - powerful academics, great athletics, passionate fans, incredible military history and traditions, gorgeous campus, beautiful location, wealthy alums, huge political clout
Posted by elpechis
Member since Aug 2011
113 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 7:08 am to
Agree completely

besides, i just had a dream about it. i was watching tv and they had just announced VT was the newest member of the SEC. so it's like a done deal imo
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 7:26 am to
Why would VT want to go to getting beat up instead of doing the beating?

Also, the UVA-VT dynamic can't be discounted.
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:01 am to
VA Tech is perfect, along with NC State, West Virginia, and A&M. These schools maintain the cultural identity of the SEC, open up new markets, and prevents us from watering down our product. I know alumni from each of these schools, and all would be at home in this conference with little chance of the schools having wandering eyes down the road. Though I'd prefer to stay at 13, this would look pretty damn good:

East:
West Virginia
VA Tech
Kentucky
Tennessee
South Carolina
NC State
Georgia
Florida

West:
Auburn
Alabama
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Miss. State
LSU
A&M
Arkansas

-or-

A pod system setup like this:
NC State
Va Tech
West Virginia
South Carolina

Florida
Georgia
Tenn
Kentucky

Auburn
Alabama
Vanderbilt
Miss. State

LSU
A&M
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:05 am to
been saying Va Tech when all of this started..

Its about TVs...

the SEC 13-16

TAMU
MO
Va Tech
UVA...politics......good academics.....sports..not so much
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:06 am to
lol uva isnt moving to the sec, neither is vt
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:08 am to
never said they would...BUT like the OP said, Va Tech is the best fit for the SEC....VA Tech and UVA are joined at the hip....or so I'm told...
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:49 am to
Adding Virginia Tech wouldn't get us the DC market.

New York City is closer to DC than Blacksburg, VA.

ETA: It's not going to be Virginia Tech. They have their own super conference forming in the ACC. Why would they leave?

West Virginia seems like a very likely candidate as of now. They need somewhere to go. They won't end up on the outside looking in when it comes to these super conferences.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 11:51 am
Posted by Tokyeaux
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

New York City is closer to DC than Blacksburg, VA.
irrelevant. most vt students and alums live in the dc area, and vt is the most popular team there.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:23 pm to
It's not about Donald Trump posting on the rant. It's about the fact that TAMU was going to have to pay 15million, and that's not a deal breaker. But 20 million. NO WAY!

It's idiotic to think $5 million would stop a program or the SEC from getting who they want. This is easily recovered by the school and/or conference through a plethora of ways. ACC schools may be out for other reasons (politics, happy in conference), but the increased buyout is only a slight deterrent.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

But 20 million. NO WAY!

you are obsesses with the amount, but thats not the point.
why would universities unanimously vote to raise the exit fee if any had inclination towards leaving? more importantly the one acc school thrown about the most on here, fsu, LED THE CHARGE to increase it.

its about intentions not dollars in this case. it was a show of solidarity. the acc is not some second tier conference that will be raided at will, its a big dog thats doing the raiding.
Posted by RighteousTiger
Member since Nov 2009
693 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:08 pm to
VT also has a very respectable Architecture Consortium/Urban Planning school satellite campus in Old Town Alexandria (adjacent to DC). I actually attended it in an exchange program during my final year at LSU.

Out of all the schools the SEC is considering, VT should be #1.
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