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NFLPA checking if Drew has been franchised for second time
Posted on 5/30/12 at 7:49 am
Posted on 5/30/12 at 7:49 am
Rotoworld
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The NFLPA has reportedly asked an arbitrator to determine whether Drew Brees has been franchise tagged for the second time. The Chargers originally placed the franchise tag on Brees when his rookie contract expired in 2004. Brees' current tag is $16.371 million. If the arbitrator rules that he's been tagged twice, Brees would be eligible for a 144 percent raise if the Saints apply the tag for a third time in 2013. Under that scenario, Brees would collect roughly $40 million for the next two seasons.
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 7:54 am to sicboy
I dont see what the question is we already knew he was tagged in San Diego.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 7:56 am to sicboy
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If the arbitrator rules that he's been tagged twice, Brees would be eligible for a 144 percent raise if the Saints apply the tag for a third time in 2013. Under that scenario, Brees would collect roughly $40 million for the next two seasons.
Well that might get a deal done.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:12 am to Meateye
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I dont see what the question is we already knew he was tagged in San Diego.
read this https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--saints-qb-drew-brees--contract-efforts-could-be-aided-by-language-in-cba.html
The Saints argue that the first tag was a different team under a different CBA so this should only count as his first franchise tag, but Brees and Condon argue it is his second. This is the 3 million dollar holdup. Brees is probably also fighting this as a union rep to set a precedent for other players
Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:18 am to ctalati32
damn... this shite is getting messy
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:05 am to steveaux3
This is so interesting. I hope the suspense never ends.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:34 am to ctalati32
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ighting this as a union rep to set a precedent for other players
Absolutely. Once this gets settled, I expect a contract to be signed.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:36 am to SaintEB
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Absolutely. Once this gets settled, I expect a contract to be signed.
Going to get signed real quick if it gets ruled in Brees favor.
Read an article on PFT though and this route seems like a longsho.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:43 am to jacks40
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Going to get signed real quick if it gets ruled in Brees favor.
I can see this being a big hold up in negotiations. If I were Drew, I would want to know exactly what I was getting into. If I knew I could only be franchised once more and that would result in a 44% pay increase, then I would like to have that in my court.
I'm not mad at either side for taking their stance, I just need some closure for this.
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Read an article on PFT though and this route seems like a longsho.
Long shot for who?
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:46 am to SaintEB
Longshot for NFLPA and Drew
Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:53 am to jacks40
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Longshot for NFLPA and Drew
Can you link it? I'd like to read because I kinda agree with Drew. Technically, this is the 2nd time he's been franchised and would count as such regardless of which CBA it fell under. I would have hoped that the NFL and NFLPA would have taken that into account when negotiating the terms of the franchise tag.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:29 am to jacks40
That does make a lot of sense. I can see Florio's point with the CBA Language that he quotes. I don't think its left up to much interpretation. It specifically says "If a Club designates" and doesn't reference "A player designated". I'm back on the fence that this will bring any closure to the negotiations once the arbitrator rules.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:38 am to SaintEB
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'm back on the fence that this will bring any closure to the negotiations once the arbitrator rules.
Only be on the fence if arbitrator rules in favor of NFL.
If by some chance ruling favors NFLPA/Drew then the cost of franchising Drew 2 years in a row will force Loomis to raise his offer, though I guess maybe Condon could ask for more as well
:havetolaughtokeepfromcrying:Posted on 5/30/12 at 12:46 pm to jacks40
So did Brees sign yet?
(I'm just going to keep it in here)
(I'm just going to keep it in here)
Posted on 5/30/12 at 3:18 pm to ctalati32
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Another team executive said part of the problem right now is psychological. Carl Nicks is now a Buccaneer after leaving the Saints. (US Presswire) "There's no reason for either side to back down because the automatic response is to ask, 'Why would you back down now if you wouldn't back down three months ago?' For one side to agree would be acknowledging they lost and these kinds of negotiations are always better when both sides can walk away and claim some victory," the executive said. "If Brees takes less, people will say, 'Why did you stay away from the offseason?' If the Saints give more, people will say, 'Why didn't you do this before so we could re-sign [guard Carl] Nicks?' " Both executives indicated that the game of chicken with Brees is somewhat silly on New Orleans' part.
This is what I've been thinking all along. It's now a testosterone fest. Neither side will blink and Drew will sit out this year.
Tom benson shakes down the State
Benson now looks like a hypocrite squeezing money out of the tax payers while not wanting to pay Drew his just salary.
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/30/12 at 3:29 pm to sicboy
Drew just needs to sign and become the highest paid player in NFL history. They Saints have made a very very generous offer.
Posted on 5/30/12 at 4:11 pm to LSForYou
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Drew just needs to sign and become the highest paid player in NFL history. They Saints have made a very very generous offer.
Link?
Posted on 5/30/12 at 4:18 pm to Oyster
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Benson now looks like a hypocrite squeezing money out of the tax payers while not wanting to pay Drew his just salary.
1, i don't think you understand what a tax break is. It was an extension of an already existing tax break. Benson buying the hornets is good for the city and the state. It is the price of having a team in a small market
2, it isn't about paying brees his just salary. Benson isn't being cheap. We have to worry about the salary cap
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Neither side will blink and Drew will sit out this year.
both sides have too much to lose
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 5/30/12 at 4:28 pm to Oyster
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Benson now looks like a hypocrite squeezing money out of the tax payers
"Squeezing money out of tax payers" sure is an interesting way of interpreting what has actually been granted to the Hornets. If you make $100 and the government previously would have taken $30...but then decides to take $20 instead...are you at that point "squeezing" that $10 out of tax payers???
Furthermore, the situation with Drew has far more to do with Loomis than it does Benson. Benson just wrote a check for $338MM to buy another sports franchise...the man could fart the $3-5MM per year which is supposedly holding up Drew's contract. This is a pissing contest between Tom Condon and Mickey Loomis. Drew is playing his role as the disappointed and offended player, and in the end, he'll be slinging touchdowns in the 'Benz once again.
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