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how is the state of LSU football now vs when Miles took over?

Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:19 am
serious question....no flame

What do you think the state of the LSU football program is this offseason (if Miles were to leave) vs the state of the program during the offseason that Miles was hired?
Better?
Worse?
About same?

expanded reasoning welcomed
(obviously the game has changed & the landscape of CFB has changed also....but it's just for conversational purpose)

FWIW, I think it's certainly not worse but closer to same than better.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:21 am to
It's the same or better talent wise. Unfortunately our coach isn't to good with in game coaching.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:24 am
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43578 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:21 am to
It would be hard to get better than year in year out contender... But staying in that category for 10 years is very impressive. People don't understand that.
Posted by demtigers73
Member since Aug 2014
6008 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:22 am to
1/9!
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33217 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:23 am to
if a 5 is the same and a 10 is a 100% improvement, then we're about a 7 right now. Recruiting has been the most impressive to sustain
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78588 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

if a 5 is the same and a 10 is a 100% improvement, then we're about a 7 right now.


you set up the scale, it could have been 1-10.
1 being the same
10 being better.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Unfortunately our coach isn't to good with in game coaching.


how'd LSU win all those games? magic?
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:42 am to
quote:

you set up the scale, it could have been 1-10.
1 being the same
10 being better.
That'll work (except 5 is the same & 1 is worse...althought I can't imagine many saying the program is considerably worse).
And it's a snapshot evaluation on the state of the program this offseason vs the state of the program the offseason Miles took over.

Said differently, if Joe Blow head coach had taken over 10 years ago instead of Miles or same Joe Blow head coach takes over this offseason...is he inheriting a better or worse situation?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40104 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:44 am to
Even more money and better facilities now that in 2004 and a similar level of talent and recruiting base/pipelines. All in all probably about the same or slightly better.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2844 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:45 am to
quote:

how'd LSU win all those games? magic?


That and eating grass occasionally
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:45 am to
quote:

how'd LSU win all those games? magic?
superior talent overcomes poor coaching decisions all the time (not specific to LSU)
this is undeniable
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:52 am to
quote:

superior talent overcomes poor coaching decisions all the time (not specific to LSU)
this is undeniable


worst argument in the history of sports

kids aren't going to come straight out of high school and win 80% of their games in the SEC with no/poor coaching just because they were 4 and 5 stars.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:56 am to
WORST. never reached potential. Alabama is now, what we would have been with Saban staying or a better hire
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:56 am to
great talent. 8-4. less than adequate qb playing in front of a more talented/heralded freshman.
a successful coach on his way out for his "dream job"
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

It would be hard to get better than year in year out contender


what are we in contention for every year? you seem like a delusional lsu fan.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

how'd LSU win all those games? magic?


How'd we lose 2 games in our national championship year when there wasn't a team close to us talent wise. Also to answer your question, the reason we win all these games is because of John Chavis.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:58 am to
Better facilities and.....Miles has maintained what Saban started...to what degree of success is debatable.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

LSU was the Rising SUPERSTAR when MILEs took over. He walked into a job with the most talented roster in the country. The Reason SABaN did not want to leave, was the shot at a NC for the for seeable future and it took the owner to fly to Baton Rouge on a Thursday after Saban turned the JOB down and offer the KEYS to the franchise, the highest paid coaching staff in the NFL absolute full and total control./// Miles took over and managed to lose 2 Games a year and JIMBO FISHER was asked when he took the Fla St Head Coaching job in waiting, said in a Radio interview that 06 LSU if Miles wouldn't have taken the play calling away at Half time we would have beaten Auburn by 3 TDs(HIS WORDS)and blown chance for a NC ....UNDER MILES WE have gone from FIRST, when he took over AND NOW 10 YEARS latter the BOTTOM half Of the SEC WEST. AFTER SABAN RECRUITS LEFT MILES HAS BEEN AVG at best. BEFORE LSU HIS RECORD WAS 4-7 /8-5 / 9-4/ 5-7 at Oak St. And that's who he is AVG.



this post is so littered with stupidity on don't even know where to begin
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

How'd we lose 2 games in our national championship year when there wasn't a team close to us talent wise.


i don't know...how the hell did UAB beat us in 2000 and ULM beat bama in 2007? shite happens


quote:

Also to answer your question, the reason we win all these games is because of John Chavis.


oh...ok. i see you're one of those people. nevermind
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Alumni80
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2003
289 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:04 pm to
Are you going to the Taxslayer Bowl and if so, are you excited about?
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