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Thoughts on this CMC offer.

Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:12 pm
Thanks in part to Andrew Luck, I'm 2-4 in this 12 team full ppr 2QB league. Almost my entire roster is out this week with injuries and byes so I feel I have to give up CMC to have any shot here on out.

My team 2-4

QB: Baker, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick
RB: CMC, Kerryon, Barber, Penny
WR: Allen, Landry, Watkins, Sanu, Allison, Slayton
TE: OJ Howard, Fant

Other team 5-1 (3 game div lead and easily best team in the div)

QB: Brady, Brees, Daniel Jones
RB: Saquon, Chubb, AP
Wr: Theilen, chark, golladay, Moore, djax, Beasley
Te: Hooper, Waller

I've offered CMC, Baker, and Landry for chubb, theilen, Brady, and Waller. I clearly need upgrades at QB and TE. He's set for the playoffs and Clevelands has Miami, Pitt, cincy, and zona in weeks 12-15. I also brought up that ni one knows what Kareem hunt will do to chubbs touches.

Fair swap? ETA: I originally had .5 ppr listed. It is actually full point.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:15 pm to
so he gets a downgrade at qb,wr,te, and then swaps a top 8 rb for a top 2? I mean if you can somehow get it congrats but if he accepts hes a damn fool
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:19 pm to
He gets Brees to take over for Brady, not a downgrade. I'm taking Waller from his bench, not a downgrade. Wr is a downgrade, but he would still start the current #5 receiver and #11 reciever.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:27 pm to
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so he gets a downgrade at qb,wr,te, and then swaps a top 8 rb for a top 2? I mean if you can somehow get it congrats but if he accepts hes a damn fool


You're looking at the trade wrong. For that other owner, it comes down to whether or not he believes upgrading from Chubb to CMC is worth giving up Thielen. And then he's pairing CMC with Saquon.

With that being said, if I were the other owner I'd be pairing one of the TEs with Golladay/Chark/Thielen for upgrade at WR.
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:31 pm to
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For that other owner, it comes down to whether or not he believes upgrading from Chubb to CMC is worth giving up Thielen.


Exactly and that is what he is currently pondering.
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:37 pm to
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With that being said, if I were the other owner I'd be pairing one of the TEs with Golladay/Chark/Thielen for upgrade at WR.


So if you were him, you'd ask for Keenan Allen instead of Landry in my offer?
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:42 pm to
brady > Baker --not even close
thielen > jarvis --not even close
giving up a top 8 te in waller

CMC > CHUBB--not far enough to downgrade at the other spots

Like I said if he accepts congrats
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:44 pm to
chark, waller, and chubb for cmc would make more sense
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:45 pm to
I mean be honest, you are probably thinking about dropping baker and landry lol
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:50 pm to
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brady > Baker --not even close
thielen > jarvis --not even close
giving up a top 8 te in waller

CMC > CHUBB--not far enough to downgrade at the other spots


Like the other poster said, this is not how to evaluate this. Two of those first three positions would see zero change in net production when taken out of his starting lineup.
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:51 pm to
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I mean be honest, you are probably thinking about dropping baker and landry lol


Like I said, this is a 12 team, 2QB league. Every QB is rostered.

ETA. Actually a QB/OP league but everyone is putting QBs in the OP position.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:52 pm to
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CMC > CHUBB--not far enough to downgrade at the other spots

fwiw, the gap between CMC and Chubb is the same as the gap between Chubb and Jordan howard
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:53 pm to
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So if you were him, you'd ask for Keenan Allen instead of Landry in my offer?
If I were him I'd be going for another solid WR1 by pairing Golladay or Chark with TE
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:56 pm to
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If I were him I'd be going for another solid WR1 by pairing Golladay or Chark with TE


Oh, from another team? Yea, I agree. I hope he doesn't read this.
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Like the other poster said, this is not how to evaluate this. Two of those first three positions would see zero change in net production when taken out of his starting lineup.


ummm what?
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:03 pm to
Brees moves into Brady's spot at QB. They'll score the same +/- a few points. Waller isn't scoring anything for him because he has the #1 TE starting.
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:05 pm to
It is a 2 qb league correct?
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:07 pm to
and it doesn't matter who he is or isn't starting. Its about the players value and you giving up 2 players that reeeeeeally suck and taking 3 top 10-12 players at their position lol
Posted by J_Hingle
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:07 pm to
I'm sorry i meant 4 top 10 players
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 3:08 pm to
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It is a 2 qb league correct?


Yes.

So your rebuttal is going to be he should just keep Brady and have both him and Brees? Fair enough. Except he is already crushing people right now starting Daniel Jones. And since he is setting up for the playoffs, Baker as underachieving as he's been, has a cush playoff schedule.
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