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re: TNF Thread: Colts @ Broncos
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:58 pm to TackySweater
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:58 pm to TackySweater
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Everything I said last night. RB didn’t agree and said Gordon was and is the lead guy but that’s just not true.
Still do.
Gordon: 56% of snaps and 18 opportunities.
Boone: 41% of snaps and 10 opportunities.
One of those is clearly the lead back.
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And Williams injury should have def given him a boost but it didn’t because they don’t trust Gordon and he’s not that good. And he wasn’t as efficient with his extra touches that they gave him as a vet courtesy.
Gordon’s snap percentages:
41%
32%
38%
19%
56%
He saw a significant boost. I’m not sure what you guys are looking at.
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:05 pm to RB10
Well first I guess we have to see who has the accurate numbers.
Or
Let’s say your numbers are accurate. 56/41 is not a huge difference. If it was Gordon vs Williams, ok. Almost even time share. But to have Boone get you almost the same numbers is very bad.
So sure, he’s the “lead back” but an almost 50/50 split with Mike Boone is not good lol. All signs pointed to Gordon should have been the guy but the reality is he isn’t going to be. Sadly for you, it’s just not going to be reality.
Also this. If you’re going to cherry pick, then I guess we can too. This is not good for Gordon.
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Melvin Gordon: 52% snaps, 15 carries, 3 targets (103 yards) - Mike Boone: 46% snaps, 7 carries, 3 targets (85 yards)
Or
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Gordon: 56% of snaps and 18 opportunities. Boone: 41% of snaps and 10 opportunities.
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One of those is clearly the lead back.
Let’s say your numbers are accurate. 56/41 is not a huge difference. If it was Gordon vs Williams, ok. Almost even time share. But to have Boone get you almost the same numbers is very bad.
So sure, he’s the “lead back” but an almost 50/50 split with Mike Boone is not good lol. All signs pointed to Gordon should have been the guy but the reality is he isn’t going to be. Sadly for you, it’s just not going to be reality.
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Boone also ran 19 routes to Gordon’s 21
Also this. If you’re going to cherry pick, then I guess we can too. This is not good for Gordon.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:12 pm to TackySweater
I got mine from Sleeper. 
56/41 isn’t almost 50/50”. It’s 56/41.
Gordon was the guy to the tune of 15% more snaps and 80% more opportunities on those snaps.
I’m not cherry picking anything waterhead. Gordon played 56% of the snaps while Boone played 41%. Gordon got 18 opportunities while Boone got 10.
Them running a similar number routes is great, that explains why they saw the same number of targets.
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So sure, he’s the “lead back” but an almost 50/50 split with Mike Boone is not good lol.
56/41 isn’t almost 50/50”. It’s 56/41.
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All signs pointed to Gordon should have been the guy but the reality is he isn’t going to be. Sadly for you, it’s just not going to be reality.
Gordon was the guy to the tune of 15% more snaps and 80% more opportunities on those snaps.
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Also this. If you’re going to cherry pick, then I guess we can too. This is not good for Gordon.
I’m not cherry picking anything waterhead. Gordon played 56% of the snaps while Boone played 41%. Gordon got 18 opportunities while Boone got 10.
Them running a similar number routes is great, that explains why they saw the same number of targets.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:16 pm to RB10
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56/41 isn’t almost 50/50”. It’s 56/41.
What you keep failing to realize is that this is Gordon and Mike Boone.
This would be ok if it was Williams and Gordon.
The coaching staff wanted to “feed” Gordon because he was the vet and I guess they w aged to give him his chance. He did shite with jt.
Gordon should have taken a hold of this and said I’m the man. He failed miserably. Lol
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:19 pm to RB10
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Gordon was the guy to the tune of 15% more snaps and 80% more opportunities on those snaps.
And yet his efficiency with all those extra snaps and opportunities was not as good as boone.
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He had 5.7yds per touch
Boone had 8.5yds per touch
In a split backfield, commons sense would say go with the more efficient back who does more with less. But sure, keep relying on empty volume opportunities.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:20 pm to TackySweater
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What you keep failing to realize is that this is Gordon and Mike Boone.
Their only active backs were Gordon, Boone and Ozigbo. They kept a similar rotation to what Williams and Gordon were doing.
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This would be ok if it was Williams and Gordon.
Why? I think we can all agree that Williams is much more talented than Gordon is. The Broncos are committed to this split.
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The coaching staff wanted to “feed” Gordon because he was the vet and I guess they w aged to give him his chance. He did shite with jt.
Gordon should have taken a hold of this and said I’m the man. He failed miserably. Lol
Ok man.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:22 pm to TackySweater
You’ve planted your flag that Boone will take over the lead role. We will see how it shakes out over the next few games.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:27 pm to RB10
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You’ve planted your flag that Boone will take over the lead role. We will see how it shakes out over the next few games.
I don’t think boone is going to be 65+% of anything. It’s going to be 50/50 the rest of the season. Or 50(Gordon)/50(boone, Murray).
But anyone who thought Gordon was going to come in and take over were and will be horribly wrong. And it was obvious that this shouldn’t have been assumed.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:28 pm to RB10
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They kept a similar rotation to what Williams and Gordon were doing.
Right. But people assumed Gordon was going to take over and be THE GUY going forward. That was never going to happen.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:36 pm to TackySweater
You’ve spent 2 pages claiming Gordon is trash and not the lead back.
If he continues to see more snaps and opportunities, like last night, he’s the lead back scooter.
If he continues to see more snaps and opportunities, like last night, he’s the lead back scooter.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:39 pm to RB10
This argument is pointless
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:55 pm to RB10
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You’ve spent 2 pages claiming Gordon is trash and not the lead back.
He was BARELY the lead back against Mike bone lol
Same situation as Robinson/etienne
Chubb/hunt
Etc
If one of those guys goes down, the other automatically jumps into a 75% role.
Gordon would have done that if he was worth a shite. But he’s obviously not and they don’t trust him.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:03 pm to TackySweater
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He was BARELY the lead back against Mike bone lol
56% is significantly more than 41%.
18 touches is significantly more than 10 touches.
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Gordon would have done that if he was worth a shite. But he’s obviously not and they don’t trust him.
So we’re back to “Gordon is trash”
When you just admitted he will probably continue to see more work than the other backs.
Got it.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:10 pm to RB10
Still waiting to see where gyno got his numbers because they are closer than yours.
Also efficiency is way more in favor for boone so there’s that.
Yea. Gordon is trash and he has known fumbling issues that the team isn’t happy with. And he also did less with more. I still stand by the thought that the team wanted to give him a shot since he was the vet back on the roster. And he did nothing with it comparatively.
I said it’s going to be very close to 50/50 when it should be more like 70/30 with Williams out the picture.
But sure, take your victory lap that Gordon was the best shite sandwich out of a handful of shite sandwiches.
Also efficiency is way more in favor for boone so there’s that.
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So we’re back to “Gordon is trash”
Yea. Gordon is trash and he has known fumbling issues that the team isn’t happy with. And he also did less with more. I still stand by the thought that the team wanted to give him a shot since he was the vet back on the roster. And he did nothing with it comparatively.
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When you just admitted he will probably continue to see more work than the other backs.
I said it’s going to be very close to 50/50 when it should be more like 70/30 with Williams out the picture.
But sure, take your victory lap that Gordon was the best shite sandwich out of a handful of shite sandwiches.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:29 pm to TackySweater
I’m feeling a side bet here. One of you has to formally apologize at season end.
Gordon finishes Top 20 ROS? 15? 25?
Gordon finishes Top 20 ROS? 15? 25?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:32 pm to LSUcam7
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I’m feeling a side bet here. One of you has to formally apologize at season end.
Gordon finishes Top 20 ROS? 15? 25?
I don’t know if Gordon is going to be great, but I’d bet he’ll volume his way to a top 24 finish.
If he does finish as a RB2 this dude should go ahead and create another alter after all the bullshite he’s posted.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:52 pm to RB10
Looking for TittySweater to make a claims before something happens, for once.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:26 am to RB10
Lol
If Gordon was worth a shite, RB2 should be his floor. He should be setup to do what Williams would do if swift was out for the entire season. But like I said, Gordon is trash and won’t come close to that.
If Gordon was worth a shite, RB2 should be his floor. He should be setup to do what Williams would do if swift was out for the entire season. But like I said, Gordon is trash and won’t come close to that.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 10:25 pm to RB10
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I don’t know if Gordon is going to be great, but I’d bet he’ll volume his way to a top 24 finish.
Hell of an uphill mountain to climb to get there after tonight.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 10:29 pm to TackySweater
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Hell of an uphill mountain to climb to get there after tonight.
I'll hold off judgement until he's not out with injury. Remember when Mike Boone was going to "be a thing" though? With Gordon out he's seen 1 carry and 1 reception, and had half the yards of Gordon.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 10:55 pm
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