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Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109997 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:28 pm to
Pga tour should accept on one condition

Top 12 vs top 12

And

LIv bottom 12 vs PGA tour 42-54
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45749 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:50 pm to
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LIv bottom 12 vs PGA tour 42-54


No one comes out to watch these guys anyways. People watch it for the star players.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109997 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:59 pm to
Truth is this would be the absolute dumbest thing for the Pga to do. Don’t let LIV draft off your ratings
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8607 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:30 am to
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Not even close. It is heavily slanted towards the PGA guys.

JT Poston #12 player in the world and Cam Smith #41?

Cam Smith 22-1 at Augusta and JT Poston is 150-1.

Russell Henley #14, Koepka #42.

80-1 and 16-1.

LIV not having more comprehensive SG data is partly to blame but the rankings are miles away from being accurate.


Nope - it's not "slanted" towards one tour or the other. Better SG data for LIV would just reshuffle where they are relative to each other, not where they are relative to the Tour players.

The LIV - Tour crossover events (majors, DPWT, Asian Tour) are the points of reference for all these guys, and outside of the top 10 or so LIV guys (and some of the middle of the pack guys like Burmeister who have played well), LIV has generally performed very poorly when they crossover. That's the consequence of the bottom 2/3 of your field being out of form, washed up dudes on long-term contracts. They are dragging everyone else SG down, and when, say, Koekpa finishes in the bottom half of LIV events (as he nearly has as often as not since he joined), then it's going to punish him.

You are using subjective data (odds) as leverage over more objective data to argue that certain players are better than others. Again, LIV's problem, as has been pointed out over and over, is that LIV is a closed system and there will be very little if any churn at the top and in the middle (and the primary reason the OWGR denied them). A lot of these guys are 18 - 24 months out from joining at this point; that's an eternity in professional golf. Justin Thomas was a top 3 - 4 player in the world when a lot of them left, as a point of reference.

Rahm and Hatton joining will help, but the very nature of their system is going to be a giant ball and chain in the competitiveness compared to open systems with a lot of month-to-month and year-to-year churn at the top and middle.
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