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re: Bryce Brown Breakdown of LSU Visit
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:54 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:54 pm to ApexTiger
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Dude, please don't compare your coach who is 20 years younger in age and iin coaching experience than our coach Miles who is 43-11 with a National Championship, one SEC title, 2 West titles, and two SECCG appearances and 4-0 in bowl blowouts...followed by the #1 recruiting class in the country..
coker could not recruit.. But went 24-2 with 1 MNC of his own. off Davis players.
Miles is damn strong as proven the last 4 years..
your coach is 0-0 all time in his HC CFB career...he has a very good staff, I give him that...The success he may have will be in spite of his arrogance and folly..
right now, your coach is at the bottom looking up at coaches like Miles, Spurrier, Ritch, Urban, Saban, Nutt, Petrino..all these guys have had tremendous success, your coach hasn't done jack.
LSU fans respect the UT program and tradition, and typically, most of us pulled for you when you played UGA, UF or Bama...
But due to Kiffin's arrogance and stupidity, we don't like Tennessee too much right now, especially when the fans like your self have this giddiness that is found in nothing other than spending tremendous money on assistants and a huge risk from a Coach who is unproven..
I can appreciate a fresh beginning and being excited, but gezzz, your guys have lost reality...and to bang on our coach is just stupid
It's one thing to hated because your good..another to be hated for your arrogance and zero accomplishments, and stupid comments that sound like it came from a middle school bully, than it does from someone who has actually done this rodeo before and acts like it.
Your fan base should be a little worried, but instead your just following this nutty arrogance over recruiting and big hires.. Big deal..
Be humble or be quiet is what UT fans should do for now.. 5-7 last year and a new coach who is 0-0 suggest I am right about this..
A little proverb for you "pride comes before the fall"
well said
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 1:01 pm to UTanner
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Les Miles/LSU is the only other SEC team that I like. I love his coaching style and your coaching staff. I think he's top 4 in the SEC but not top 10 nationally. Like Coker, he needs a great staff and a powerhouse school to be able to recruit. Like them two, I think Kiffin (with help), can do what they have done
not exactly a compliment.
name ten coaches better.....
Posted on 3/12/09 at 4:59 pm to UTanner
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Good points about our inexperience headcoach. Just b/c a coach fails as a headcoach doesn't mean he is a bad assistant, ala David Cutcliff.
What makes your argument ignorant is the fact that Orgeron coached at the highest level in SEC and now he is our D Line coach/recruiting coordinator. Did you hear that, a SEC head coach is not a coordinator, he is a position coach. Not to mention, the fact LSU was willing to pay him $900,000 to coach your defense. I think O at $600,000 is a pretty good deal.
Mitch Browning was the Offensive Coordinator at Syracuse. Now he is a Graduate Assistant at UT. Did you hear that, not a O coordinator, not a QB or RB coach; a f'n GA. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
Monte Kiffin was a Super Bowl winning Defensive Coordinator in the NFL for 30 years and now is the same at UT. Did you hear that, SUPER BOWL CHAMPION. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
Eddie Gran has put 10 RB in the NFL with 6 currently on rosters. He has 14 years SEC experience and may the best at the collegiate level. How/Why Auburn let him go is beyond me, but another good deal if you ask me.
Compare Lane Kiffin to former Oakland coaches, thats the only fair comparison. That is unless you want to totally ignore his experience under Norm Chow and his OC success at USC. I think those were pretty good teams. Who is the OC now at USC, Jason Bates. I guess he sucks too.
Comparing Miles to Coker was unfair and that is not how I meant it. Les Miles/LSU is the only other SEC team that I like. I love his coaching style and your coaching staff. I think he's top 4 in the SEC but not top 10 nationally. Like Coker, he needs a great staff and a powerhouse school to be able to recruit. Like them two, I think Kiffin (with help), can do what they have done.
Miles is only 25% of LSU success. The staff is the other 25%, recruiting in LA is the other 25%, and LSU as a whole is the other 25%.
Lane Kiffin may only be 15%, but his staff is probably 35%. Great recruiters would be the other 25%, and UTs tradition and history is the other 25%.
JMO, but I think the last 2 arguments are fair.
David Cultliffe is a great head coach..Ole Miss just didn't realize how good Eli was or was missed greatly the following year, and how bad a HC coach O was.. O can recruit... Not HC material
LSU did not offer O 900 (bad rumor)..we offered 600, you guys offered 650.. these are known facts.
I think the staff at UT is excellent.. But why would all these highly qualified guys as you say come and coach for a lesser position at for a 33 year old HC experience with zero experience (money maybe?)? I don't follow your thinking, other than your just trying to show off your staff to us.
How does Lane Kiffin handle a close game or when he looses a couple and the troops get restless? No one knows because he hasn't coached before.
so I say again, UT fan can only hope to God Kiffin has the success Miles has had at LSU..and quiet banging on him
This post was edited on 3/12/09 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 3/12/09 at 6:06 pm to ApexTiger
This Bustin at the Buttons pride recently on display from UT Types about their coaching staff is really closely akin to the National Recruiting Championship beruited about by the gumps...
I guess it's just fine to try to find something about your program's performance to be proud of.
Now, we had a down year, last year, but I hope we never delude ourselves into accepting anything other than championships on the field.
These other pseudo-categories are for pseudo winners (read: losers).
I guess it's just fine to try to find something about your program's performance to be proud of.
Now, we had a down year, last year, but I hope we never delude ourselves into accepting anything other than championships on the field.
These other pseudo-categories are for pseudo winners (read: losers).
Posted on 3/12/09 at 6:41 pm to UTanner
quote:Lolz @ you.
Not to mention, the fact LSU was willing to pay him $900,000 to coach your defense.
UT got themselves a bunch of excellent recruiters, but only two or three have legitimate coaching ability. I think Kiffin will have as much success at UT as he did at Oakland. Oakland had outstanding skill position players as well.
If Monte can get your boys to hustle, you might have a passable defense. . .but I wouldn't count on it. Your front seven will be the worst in the SEC, bar none. Not an insult, you just lost too much there the last couple years and Fulmer never gave Donald or Walker legit snaps to garner experience. It's going to be ugly.
Look on the bright side, though. . .at least your offense is mediocre. Gerald Jones is your best offensive talent followed by Creer. Hardesty is a walking infirmary. Your QB's are talented and deep, regardless of their performance last year. They stunk because of a perfect storm. New QB's under a new coordinator, in a new complicated system. Crompton throwing 40 times against UCLA to start the year while Foster was hammering them. They stopped running Foster to throw more, despite the passing game's ineffectiveness. That told me all I needed to know about your OC Clawson. He sucked balls.
Lane Kiffin's Offensive system is not a system that can make chicken salad out of chicken shite. It is a vastly simplified pro-style power running game. It looks flashy at USC because they have 5-star talent all over the field. It is going to look boring for years until UTenn can get comparable talent.
Then there is the problem developing talent. Ogre hasn't shown any ability in this area, and that is concerning. In his history, D-Lineman leave him about as good as he finds them. . .they don't typically get any better. This is going to be a problem with a number of position coaches you guys hired. Great recruiters, bad coaches. Kiffin will learn, though. . .he's still a kid, so he'll be better when he moves on to his next job.
I still say that when Monte dies/retires Lane will get shite-canned.
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Mitch Browning was the Offensive Coordinator at Syracuse. Now he is a Graduate Assistant at UT. Did you hear that, not a O coordinator, not a QB or RB coach; a f'n GA. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
lolz. He came to UT because nobody else would offer him a job. Nobody. As in nada.
Real steal you got there. . .lolz.
quote:Your only decent, real coach IMO. . .other than Monte.
Eddie Gran
Will the Tampon-2 work in the SEC? Nobody knows.
With the lack of defensive talent and experience (other than Berry who pwns), I think it will take an miraculous job of coaching by Monte to do any better than a 7th-10th place finish in the SEC defensive category.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 6:53 pm to UTanner
"What makes your arguement ignorant is the fact that Orgeron coached at the highest level in SEC and now he is our D Line coach/recruiting coordinator. Did you hear that, a SEC headcoach is not a coordinator, he is a position coach. Not to mention, the fact LSU was willing to pay him $900,000 to coach your defense. I think O at $600,000 is a pretty good deal."
Everyone knows LSU offered orgeron the job for the same reason UT did...recruiting.
You really think adding Orgeron, a relatively accomplished coach, significantly under kiffin, a coach who has done jack, speaks well for your program?
Merely putting a better coach at a not-so-significant spot doesn't make the head coach better, it just makes your program retarded.
Everyone knows LSU offered orgeron the job for the same reason UT did...recruiting.
You really think adding Orgeron, a relatively accomplished coach, significantly under kiffin, a coach who has done jack, speaks well for your program?
Merely putting a better coach at a not-so-significant spot doesn't make the head coach better, it just makes your program retarded.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 6:57 pm to ElEsYouTigahs
by the way, i dont really feel like reading 15 pages of argument about a joke of a coach, ie kiffin, so can anyone throw in an update of what is going on with Bryce Brown?
any developments? has he revealed anything about where he is leaning? I have gathered it is btw Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, and LSU, with reasons to believe either is the leader, that sound right?
any developments? has he revealed anything about where he is leaning? I have gathered it is btw Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, and LSU, with reasons to believe either is the leader, that sound right?
Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:43 pm to nitwit
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Monte Kiffin was a Super Bowl winning Defensive Coordinator in the NFL for 30 years and now is the same at UT.
There have been many good Pro coaches (and vise versa) that couldn't get it done at the college level. It's a different game. Bottom line: unproven.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:57 pm to Sabanocchio
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Too bad you're wrong.
Wrong? WTF? Take that weak shite to the airport and wait for Bryce Brown's plane to land Mountain Gump.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 9:13 pm to Monk
BRYCE BROWN MAKES KIFFIN LOOK LIKE arse CLOWN!
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:rotflmao:
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:14 pm to WITCH DOCTOR
Bryce Brown will be in Knoxville tomorrow night, with the fam. Write it down.
Bryce Brown will commit to UT on Monday. Write it down.
Reggie Bush was the #1 RB in the nation out of HS and while at USC. Lendale White was the #9 RB out of HS and holds TD record at USC. They were coached by Lane Kiffin and did pretty good.
Bryce Brown is #1 RB in the nation. David Oku is the #1 APB in the nation. Toney Williams is the #4 FB in the nation. USC never had a Nukeese Richardson type player. All 4 will be incoming Freshman.
What happened in 2004?? Who was the best RB duo that year? I don't know tough question, because Bush/White and Williams/Brown were both deadly combos and both teams went undefeated running the ball. Who coached Bush/White, Lane Kiffin. Who coached Williams/Brown, Eddie Gran.
They are going to have their work-horses from day one at UT. If you think our running game will be boring for many years, you need your head checked.
Chaney (UT OC) produced 2 heisman trophy finalist at Purdue in Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. 6 out of the 9 years at PU, his offenses were top 10. Our offense is going to be sick. Again, get your head checked.
LSU will be too. Give us a year, we will see you in ATL.
Bryce Brown will commit to UT on Monday. Write it down.
Reggie Bush was the #1 RB in the nation out of HS and while at USC. Lendale White was the #9 RB out of HS and holds TD record at USC. They were coached by Lane Kiffin and did pretty good.
Bryce Brown is #1 RB in the nation. David Oku is the #1 APB in the nation. Toney Williams is the #4 FB in the nation. USC never had a Nukeese Richardson type player. All 4 will be incoming Freshman.
What happened in 2004?? Who was the best RB duo that year? I don't know tough question, because Bush/White and Williams/Brown were both deadly combos and both teams went undefeated running the ball. Who coached Bush/White, Lane Kiffin. Who coached Williams/Brown, Eddie Gran.
They are going to have their work-horses from day one at UT. If you think our running game will be boring for many years, you need your head checked.
Chaney (UT OC) produced 2 heisman trophy finalist at Purdue in Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. 6 out of the 9 years at PU, his offenses were top 10. Our offense is going to be sick. Again, get your head checked.
LSU will be too. Give us a year, we will see you in ATL.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:20 pm to UTanner
Defense was #3 in nation last year and we upgraded our D Coordinator. Then there is Eric Berry.
O Line, specifically tackle is our only major need for 2010. However, with 2 future first rounders in the stable, the top O lineman (and QBs) in the nation will be begging to come block for those guys.
O Line, specifically tackle is our only major need for 2010. However, with 2 future first rounders in the stable, the top O lineman (and QBs) in the nation will be begging to come block for those guys.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 5:43 am to UTanner
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Come back with that again.
Speak up I cant hear you.
Your going to have to quit mumbling, it sounded like you said he is a champion on toilet bowls. Does he drink too much, or does he have a virus?
quote:
Did you hear that, a SEC headcoach is not a coordinator, he is a position coach. Not to mention, the fact LSU was willing to pay him $900,000 to coach your defense. I think O at $600,000 is a pretty good deal
Come back with that again.
quote:
Did you hear that, not a O coordinator, not a QB or RB coach; a f'n GA. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
Speak up I cant hear you.
quote:
Did you hear that, SUPER BOWL CHAMPION. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
Your going to have to quit mumbling, it sounded like you said he is a champion on toilet bowls. Does he drink too much, or does he have a virus?
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:22 am to UTanner
quote:Write this down.
Write it down.
quote:Chicken should start a fantasy board.
Give us a year, we will see you in ATL
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:26 am to Cadello
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:36 am to Cadello
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Write this down.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:58 am to TheDoc
How about we all write that down with a big ole' crayola!
The only thing that is good right now in tennesee is Lane Kiffen's wife--need to put that on stage with a pole somewhere! :asskisser:
The only thing that is good right now in tennesee is Lane Kiffen's wife--need to put that on stage with a pole somewhere! :asskisser:
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:08 am to UTanner
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Bryce Brown will be in Knoxville tomorrow night, with the fam. Write it down.
Bryce Brown will commit to UT on Monday. Write it down.
Reggie Bush was the #1 RB in the nation out of HS and while at USC. Lendale White was the #9 RB out of HS and holds TD record at USC. They were coached by Lane Kiffin and did pretty good.
Bryce Brown is #1 RB in the nation. David Oku is the #1 APB in the nation. Toney Williams is the #4 FB in the nation. USC never had a Nukeese Richardson type player. All 4 will be incoming Freshman.
What happened in 2004?? Who was the best RB duo that year? I don't know tough question, because Bush/White and Williams/Brown were both deadly combos and both teams went undefeated running the ball. Who coached Bush/White, Lane Kiffin. Who coached Williams/Brown, Eddie Gran.
They are going to have their work-horses from day one at UT. If you think our running game will be boring for many years, you need your head checked.
Chaney (UT OC) produced 2 heisman trophy finalist at Purdue in Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. 6 out of the 9 years at PU, his offenses were top 10. Our offense is going to be sick. Again, get your head checked.
LSU will be too. Give us a year, we will see you in ATL.
Sounds like the rest of the SEC should just lay down their arms and concede to Tenn.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:14 am to UTanner
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Bryce Brown will be in Knoxville tomorrow night, with the fam. Write it down.
Bryce Brown will commit to UT on Monday. Write it down.
Reggie Bush was the #1 RB in the nation out of HS and while at USC. Lendale White was the #9 RB out of HS and holds TD record at USC. They were coached by Lane Kiffin and did pretty good.
Bryce Brown is #1 RB in the nation. David Oku is the #1 APB in the nation. Toney Williams is the #4 FB in the nation. USC never had a Nukeese Richardson type player. All 4 will be incoming Freshman.
What happened in 2004?? Who was the best RB duo that year? I don't know tough question, because Bush/White and Williams/Brown were both deadly combos and both teams went undefeated running the ball. Who coached Bush/White, Lane Kiffin. Who coached Williams/Brown, Eddie Gran.
They are going to have their work-horses from day one at UT. If you think our running game will be boring for many years, you need your head checked.
Chaney (UT OC) produced 2 heisman trophy finalist at Purdue in Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. 6 out of the 9 years at PU, his offenses were top 10. Our offense is going to be sick. Again, get your head checked.
LSU will be too. Give us a year, we will see you in ATL.
this is a mild sample of Volnation.. If you wish enjoy more of these type of post, go to www.volnation.com click,
recruiting, and at the very very top, click the 7000 thread on Bryce Brown.. The UT lock.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:33 am to ApexTiger
Uh and your offensive coordinator, how manh championships did he win or should I say how many championships did he even play in? Next.
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