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re: Darius Winston To Ole Miss?
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:46 pm to PharmacistReb
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:46 pm to PharmacistReb
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It's going to be Bama and Ole Miss competing for the West for the next 2 to 3 seasons. Les is too much of a choke machine. The 2 loss national championship was about as fluked out as it gets. The dumb arse last second pass against Auburn last season was very Orgeron-like. I expect him to make worse decisions and under achieve with superior talent. This guy is beginning to make me think DiNardo may be a better LSU Coach.
Might have something to do with that.
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Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:06 pm to pioneerbasketball
Sorry that I don't consider Petrino a threat. It's my opinion that he won't be as successful because, after all, this isn't the Big East. State is simply not going to be good for a while. Auburn has talent and good assistants but the powers that be on the Plains are very critical of a coach's performance... we all know this. I don't see Chizik lasting as long as some might like. Les < Saban and Nutt. Even with superior talent, Les does less with more
I have my opinion and you have yours. Just because you don't like mine and I back mine with evidence doesn't mean you should get angry because I'm leaving Arky out of it. You think Nutt sucks because he didn't take you to a national championship or win the SEC. That's fine. You have your opinions and I have mine. Don't get frustrated that Nutt finished higher ranked at Ole Miss in one season than he ever did at Arkansas in 10 seasons.
I have my opinion and you have yours. Just because you don't like mine and I back mine with evidence doesn't mean you should get angry because I'm leaving Arky out of it. You think Nutt sucks because he didn't take you to a national championship or win the SEC. That's fine. You have your opinions and I have mine. Don't get frustrated that Nutt finished higher ranked at Ole Miss in one season than he ever did at Arkansas in 10 seasons.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:10 pm to PharmacistReb
You have to be some sort of stupid if you think it will just be Ole freakin Piss and a depleted Bama team competing for the West next year. My god...1 8-5 year and we're gone forever right after having 3 straight 11+ win seasons and a national title. Last time Ole Miss won 11 games or more?
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:37 pm to thunderbird1100
They are so use to having a losing season that having a winning season for one year has gotten them alittle crazy. Being mediocre is better than losing and with Nutt will all they will be.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:38 pm to thunderbird1100
Ole Miss doing the same thing they did in 2003 and that is winning with a good QB. When Snead leaves, you will be back to 4th in the west behind LSU, BAMA, and take your choice of Auburn, State or Arkansas. Same thing happened when Eli left and it will happen again. It is hard to sustain dominance when you are located between Saban and Miles, two of the best recruiters in all of college football. You're delusional if you think this year was an indication of things to come in the West! Live it up while you can, because reality sets in next year! 
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:38 pm to thunderbird1100
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You have to be some sort of stupid if you think it will just be Ole freakin Piss and a depleted Bama team competing for the West next year. My god...1 8-5 year and we're gone forever right after having 3 straight 11+ win seasons and a national title. Last time Ole Miss won 11 games or more?
I'll be surprised if OM lives up to the expectations next season...Not that they have the talent, but Nutt has never proven to get over the hump yet...ever. As far as I know his TEAMS that he put together are a combined 3-6 in bowl games even with the likes of UNLV and Minny on the card.
You would think a 9 win season would shore up some better recruits but it hasn't. I'm sure that Super Secret Commit is just waiting out there in the wings and they'll finish up with a couple 4*'s and a few "diamonds in the rough" which will include recruiting what 6 RB's...Good job son...Don't load up on the holes that will ultimately leave next year...stupid recruiting. But hey...You might get Randle right??
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Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:52 pm to sugatowng
Lol
I love the pissing contest.
Look, I'm not nearly as contentious as I come across.
Suga, you really aren't following the recruiting process very closely based of your statements. When signing rolls around, you can voice your opinion then. You really are incredibly uninformed as to what you're talking about.
And to the LSU fan who thinks we finished 8-5. We finished 9-4. I know when you're as deep in the kool-aid as you are, it's hard to be up to date with the rest of the SEC. Oblivious is only one word that describes some of you. The others might get me banned.
I love the pissing contest.
Look, I'm not nearly as contentious as I come across.
Suga, you really aren't following the recruiting process very closely based of your statements. When signing rolls around, you can voice your opinion then. You really are incredibly uninformed as to what you're talking about.
And to the LSU fan who thinks we finished 8-5. We finished 9-4. I know when you're as deep in the kool-aid as you are, it's hard to be up to date with the rest of the SEC. Oblivious is only one word that describes some of you. The others might get me banned.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:56 pm to HTownTiger710
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It is hard to sustain dominance when you are located between Saban and Miles
Haha, yeah, Les Miles is the worst of our worries. I don't think Les Miles should be mentioned in the same paragraph as Nick Saban until he wins a crystal ball or an SEC Championship with the talent that he recruitied all by himself.
We're about as much worried with Les Miles as we are Bobby Petrino. Nick Saban worries us. Les Miles...
When you lose 2 games with the kind of talent he had in 2007 and you lose 5 games with the kind of talent he had this past season. I've no doubt that Leslie will continue to underachieve greatly. It's what he does. It's who he is.
Worried about Les Miles...
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:56 pm to PharmacistReb
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Suga, you really aren't following the recruiting process very closely based of your statements. When signing rolls around, you can voice your opinion then. You really are incredibly uninformed as to what you're talking about.
You know...when I see it, I'll believe it...This record has been playing for years and typically Nutt never closed well...Just a fact
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:56 pm to PharmacistReb
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And to the LSU fan who thinks we finished 8-5. We finished 9-4. I know when you're as deep in the kool-aid as you are, it's hard to be up to date with the rest of the SEC. Oblivious is only one word that describes some of you.
I was talking about US being 8-5, not you...read slower next time
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Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:00 pm to sugatowng
Suga,
You said the other day that Nutt was a poser and that Arkansas was having a down year
You contradict yourself post after post.
So tell me. Considering Nutt has never been and will never be a top of the line coach, has Arkansas ever legitimately been a top of the line program? Based off of Nutt's history, should Arkansas even be mentioned in the same breat as Auburn and LSU?
Let's hope Bobby Petrino can send you to as many New Years Day Bowls and trips to Atlanta. How many seasons will it take before Arkansas ever legitimizes itself? I mean, you've said yourself, Nutt has held them back for years right?
You said the other day that Nutt was a poser and that Arkansas was having a down year
You contradict yourself post after post.
So tell me. Considering Nutt has never been and will never be a top of the line coach, has Arkansas ever legitimately been a top of the line program? Based off of Nutt's history, should Arkansas even be mentioned in the same breat as Auburn and LSU?
Let's hope Bobby Petrino can send you to as many New Years Day Bowls and trips to Atlanta. How many seasons will it take before Arkansas ever legitimizes itself? I mean, you've said yourself, Nutt has held them back for years right?
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:02 pm to thunderbird1100
Thunderbird,
My mistake. Yes, you were 8-5 this season with a losing record in the SEC. I think what you're beginning to see is that Les "The Hat" Miles is having to evaluate and develop his own talent. He doesn't get to win games with Nick Saban talent anymore. The ball's in his court and he's now at a point where everybody on the team are his players.
I think a trend has begun. Very DiNardo-esque.
My mistake. Yes, you were 8-5 this season with a losing record in the SEC. I think what you're beginning to see is that Les "The Hat" Miles is having to evaluate and develop his own talent. He doesn't get to win games with Nick Saban talent anymore. The ball's in his court and he's now at a point where everybody on the team are his players.
I think a trend has begun. Very DiNardo-esque.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:07 pm to PharmacistReb
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You said the other day that Nutt was a poser and that Arkansas was having a down year
Nutt IS a poser and Arky had a down year
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You contradict yourself post after post.
no...what don't you understand..
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So tell me. Considering Nutt has never been and will never be a top of the line coach, has Arkansas ever legitimately been a top of the line program? Based off of Nutt's history, should Arkansas even be mentioned in the same breat as Auburn and LSU?
He gets his team up but he is not a coach that will take you to the promise land...If you are happy with that, well I understand as you are one year removed from 0-8.
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Let's hope Bobby Petrino can send you to as many New Years Day Bowls and trips to Atlanta. How many seasons will it take before Arkansas ever legitimizes itself? I mean, you've said yourself, Nutt has held them back for years right?
This is now the mentality of the OM faithful...Getting there...Typical Nutt speak. Don't set the bar to high bro! Even with our schedule, I won't be suprised if we play on NYD 2010. The 2010 Fall team will be a force on both sides of the ball.
We had our chance in 2007 but Nutt let shite get out of hand the previous year with a talented OC...but he's an ego-maniac....
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:09 pm to PharmacistReb
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Haha, yeah, Les Miles is the worst of our worries. I don't think Les Miles should be mentioned in the same paragraph as Nick Saban until he wins a crystal ball or an SEC Championship with the talent that he recruitied all by himself.
LOL @ this tired, lame and old argument of "Saban's players". Miles isn't recruiting any worse than Saban and is doing the exact same thing Saban did - locking down LA talent...which is why this argument is completely stupid. Miles has the best winning percentage of any LSU coach ever to coach at the school for 3 or more years. He is in a class of his own at LSU already. Get new, worthwhile material.
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Les Miles.
The coach that is 3-1 against you. Laugh away.
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When you lose 2 games with the kind of talent he had in 2007
Yes, winning a national title sucks, let me tell you about it
. Nevermind the fact we played 5 Top 15 teams that year and we went 5-0 against them...something no other team in the BCS era has done. quote:
you lose 5 games with the kind of talent he had this past season.
Talent like a harvard transfer at QB and Jarrett Lee? We had big qb problems this year because we had to kick off the really good starter. Much different year if RP keeps his head on straight. Didn't help we had clowns running the show on defense, who are all gone now.
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I've no doubt that Leslie will continue to underachieve greatly. It's what he does. It's who he is.
Yeah let me tell you about that. He only turned Oklahoma State around into a winning program from a losing one.. He only has come into LSU and added 2 more BCS bowl wins, an SEC and national championship...not to mention once again is the winningest coach ever at LSU (% wise) that has coached for at least 3 years.
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Worried about Les Miles...
Once again, same coach who is 3-1 against your team. And will be 4-1 after next year.
Amazing what 1 mediocre season does for the Pissers when they take advantage of a shitty West.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:12 pm to PharmacistReb
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I think what you're beginning to see is that Les "The Hat" Miles is having to evaluate and develop his own talent. He doesn't get to win games with Nick Saban talent anymore
I think what you're being is a delusional dumbass. The talent hasn't changed at all. Our classes are exactly the same as they were years ago. We're still doing exactly what St. Nick did and lock down LA talent. The talent is exactly the same. This year was a product of QB struggles because our starting QB got kicked off the team and a bad set of DCs which are both gone now. You won't be seeing another year like this year year at all. Deep down you know LSU will be back at the top the next few years, owning you guys once again.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:15 pm to PharmacistReb
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Yes, you were 8-5 this season with a losing record in the SEC. I think what you're beginning to see is that Les "The Hat" Miles is having to evaluate and develop his own talent. He doesn't get to win games with Nick Saban talent anymore. The ball's in his court and he's now at a point where everybody on the team are his players.
this is one of the most idiotic arguments that floats around on message boards. either you're arguing that miles can't recruit as well as saban, which is asinine according to the recruiting services and the fact that the vast majority of the talent both coaches recruited are louisiana kids. or you're implying that miles can't develop talent, which is even more stupid. i love how idiots try to give saban credit for players that were with him for 1 season and were freshmen sitting the bench that miles coached for 3 years. the losses this season were due to the only QB with experience being dismissed and a horrible decision with the DC's. if you want to blame miles for either of those things go ahead because you have a valid point, but the talent argument is erroneous and idiotic
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:15 pm to thunderbird1100
take this shite to a different board. Reb, way to prove your ignorance and you haven't been here a month. 
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:19 pm to thunderbird1100
Suga, I'm finished with you. Your mindless rant has me rolling. Houston Nutt, "the poser", leaves Arkansas and then they have down year? Haha, keep 'em comin Suga. I love it.
Thunderbird, chill out with your ramblings...
Nick developed the talent that you had. Anybody can recruit good talent and suck with it. Their names are Ed Orgeron and Phil Fulmer.
Nick Saban knew how to develop his talent and create good players into great players. Les just recruits good players.
By the way, what's Les' record against Nutt?
Thunderbird, chill out with your ramblings...
Nick developed the talent that you had. Anybody can recruit good talent and suck with it. Their names are Ed Orgeron and Phil Fulmer.
Nick Saban knew how to develop his talent and create good players into great players. Les just recruits good players.
By the way, what's Les' record against Nutt?
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:20 pm to PharmacistReb
ummmmm Nick barely touched the players that were juniors and seniors last year. Miles developed them.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:21 pm to OldIowaTiger
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ummmmm Nick barely touched the players that were juniors and seniors last year. Miles developed them.
apparently he's too stupid to realize that
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