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re: Who is the King ... of NCAA Football recruiting?
Posted on 5/7/09 at 4:35 pm to usc6158
Posted on 5/7/09 at 4:35 pm to usc6158
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I think denegrating Carroll's recruiting record is foolish.
I don't think anyone is saying Carroll isn't a good recruiter. But if you say anyone can recruit well at LSU when they are winning, then you have to acknowledge the same for USC. Both programs are very attractive in their regions for different reasons. USC may have more of a national pull, but LSU is very strong in the talent-rich Southeast and we don't need to go that far. If we did, I suspect Les would do as good a job as Petey. Nothing to back it up besides opinion, but he is very well liked by recruits and families.
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 8:37 pm to usc6158
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and have only a single national championship in the new century to show for it
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nd yet we take the best players from the rest of the country as well
and have only a single national championship in the new century to show for it
Posted on 5/7/09 at 9:01 pm to BamaInHsv
Although none are loved by LSU fans... I think any reasonable list has Meyer, Carroll, and Saban very close to the top (if not at teh top)
Posted on 5/7/09 at 9:27 pm to usc6158
quote:you've got a point
and yet we take the best players from the rest of the country as well
Posted on 5/7/09 at 9:40 pm to Joe Mantegna
Butch Davis and he does it the right way....
that should something
that should something
Posted on 5/7/09 at 9:56 pm to BamaInHsv
Jim Tressel how the F*^% do you get anyone to move to Ohio?
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:23 pm to chip207
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Jim Tressel how the F*^% do you get anyone to move to Ohio?
Ohio and Pennsylvania high school football is pretty good and they do well historically in Florida for some reason
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:27 pm to usc6158
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and yet we take the best players from the rest of the country as well
And yet....still lose a game every year you have NO business losing.
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:29 pm to BamaInHsv
Orgeron is the king of recruiting shirtless wildboyz.
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:51 pm to Monk
It has always been my belief that "winning" recruits more than anything. I would have to see how each of these coaches recruit with a losing team. Unfortunately all these great recruiting coaches are usually good enough coaches to win with great recruiting classes. Both variables (winning and recruiting) are synergistic with the other. Couple that to varied evaluations of talent from multiple sources and it gets hard to delineate who is actually better. Every coach mentioned thus far has certain things that help them in recruiting.
They are all great recruiters, its hard to say without a doubt which is the best because evaluations of talent are so varied among different sources. Obviously some kids are overrated and some underrated. Generally 5 star kids are the best of the best. But recruiting a 3 star 1st round draft pick says a great deal about talent evaluation than a 5 star who drops out. I dont mean to make this a "stars matter" debate but I think you get the jest of the argument.
They are all great recruiters, its hard to say without a doubt which is the best because evaluations of talent are so varied among different sources. Obviously some kids are overrated and some underrated. Generally 5 star kids are the best of the best. But recruiting a 3 star 1st round draft pick says a great deal about talent evaluation than a 5 star who drops out. I dont mean to make this a "stars matter" debate but I think you get the jest of the argument.
This post was edited on 5/7/09 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:57 pm to BamaInHsv
Pete Carroll
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 11:21 pm to Cussian
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Mack Brown can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves.
Tommy Boy Alert!!
Posted on 5/8/09 at 8:19 am to BamaInHsv
Nick hasn't shown he can do it consistently at the same school like Pete has. Not saying Nick can't he just hasn't proved himself over a long period of time.
Posted on 5/8/09 at 10:32 am to Rockerbraves
I think one man who should get some recognition is Doc Holliday...im not sure where he is now but i know he was the top recruiter at schools like west virginia(jerry porter, amous zeroue) and nc state(phillip rivers, koren robinson) and was able to get some big time prospects at places that were'nt nationally popular...he was most recently at florida where im pretty sure he does a bulk of the recruiting...not sure if hes still there though, may have gone back to west virginia
Posted on 5/8/09 at 10:34 am to BamaInHsv
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If you don't say Saban... you better have a damned good argument
please, ed orgeron is just as good. so is is bob stoops, mack brown and butch davis
This post was edited on 5/8/09 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/8/09 at 11:01 am to usc6158
i think you under estimate the amount of high school kids in la that are even eligible every yr compared to California.
Posted on 5/8/09 at 11:09 am to dgnx6
A lot of the posters in this thread have had good arguments for their guy, and I have to agree that the difference between the top 5 recruiters is subtle, but it appears (I don't see him do his thing) that Saban just flat out-works the other guys.
The "Saban Rule" was a really lame piece of legislation. Looks like all the other coaches want time off without worrying about Saban out there working. He's a friggin machine that never stops. Worth every penny. Underpaid maybe.
I hear that the majority of our staff turnover is due to the fact that they don't want to work that hard. They just want a year under him on their resume.
The "Saban Rule" was a really lame piece of legislation. Looks like all the other coaches want time off without worrying about Saban out there working. He's a friggin machine that never stops. Worth every penny. Underpaid maybe.
I hear that the majority of our staff turnover is due to the fact that they don't want to work that hard. They just want a year under him on their resume.
Posted on 5/8/09 at 11:18 am to BamaInHsv
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but it appears (I don't see him do his thing) that Saban just flat out-works the other guys.
not true at all, lane kiffin and his staff work just as hard, bob stoops, urban meyer, butch davis all do as well. you are giving saban too much credit. imo there is no "king of football recruiting" but there are a bunch of great recruiters.
Posted on 5/8/09 at 3:00 pm to Brendoni
Two time recruiter of the year - Larry Porter
Posted on 5/8/09 at 3:12 pm to BamaInHsv
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I hear that the majority of our staff turnover is due to the fact that they don't want to work that hard. They just want a year under him on their resume.
I like you, but I am pretty sure that it's because he's a dick.
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