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re: 4-2-5 during 1st half of bama
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:37 pm to Clark W Griswold
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:37 pm to Clark W Griswold
3-3-5, nickel. Phillips, Dvinity at ILB, either Thornton or Anthony on the strong side and put Stevens in a “Box safety” spot on the weak side. Gotta keep Delpit up top with their passing game.
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 1:59 pm to gwilging
G wil, thanks for the response. I would love to know the differences . Thanks in advance!
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:01 pm to tomcatrav
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I would love to know the differences . Thanks in advance!
I already explained it.
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:46 pm to 225Tyga
That is not an explanation. That is a juvenile rant. I’m asking G wil , who offered further explanation , (not you) what are the specific differences that make switching between them such a challenge? To me the differences between packages and bases is interesting. Just curious. Not sure why it bothers u so much.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:47 pm to tomcatrav
4-2-5 defense is broken down into 3 distinct parts:
* Front 6
* Call/Read Side (3 DBs)
* Away/Weak Side (2 DBs)
Call Side will feature a boundary CB, SS and FS. This side will always favor the strong side of the offensive formation.
Away Side will feature a field/boundary CB and a WS (weak safety) to the empty or weak side of the offensive formation. SS and WS will switch roles if the offense shifts its strength.
Whenever you watch a TCU or VT game, make sure to watch the sideline for the different calls signaled to the field. Three people are in control of calling of each respective aforementioned part of the defense.
In the case with Gary Patterson at TCU, generally he will call a defense with 3 different names for each portion of the defense. In other words, a 4-2-5 will never call a Cover 2 a "Cover 2." Three different calls may add up to a "Cover 2," but the call is seldom that simplistic. Of course, these defensive coaches may name a particular combination, but responsibilities are a bit different from a 4-3's Cover 2, even from the Nickel.
Keep in mind, the two LBs will be aware of the DB's calls. They may have to adjust their blitz call if they need to drop into coverage. However, often they will play a Green Dog, which essentially means a delayed blitz. If the RB stays in to block instead of flaring out of the backfield, the LB(s) will blitz.
The fantastic part of a 4-2-5 is that the defense can easily adapt to what the offense does pre-snap. A strong-side blitz can be called in the blink of an eye while the Away Side can play Cover 3 principles or pattern match. It is also easy to disguise a blitz or coverage in this system.
From the little I know, it seems Dave Aranda must have been influenced by the 4-2-5 at some point in his career. Some of his slant, corner and LB blitzes are very similar to a 4-2-5.
TCU's "2 Read"
Gary Patterson videos
Another Gary Patterson video
If I were to coach football, I would use a 4-2-5. I absolutely love this system. I learned a lot of its intricacies at a coaches' clinic earlier this year. Hope this helps.
* Front 6
* Call/Read Side (3 DBs)
* Away/Weak Side (2 DBs)
Call Side will feature a boundary CB, SS and FS. This side will always favor the strong side of the offensive formation.
Away Side will feature a field/boundary CB and a WS (weak safety) to the empty or weak side of the offensive formation. SS and WS will switch roles if the offense shifts its strength.
Whenever you watch a TCU or VT game, make sure to watch the sideline for the different calls signaled to the field. Three people are in control of calling of each respective aforementioned part of the defense.
In the case with Gary Patterson at TCU, generally he will call a defense with 3 different names for each portion of the defense. In other words, a 4-2-5 will never call a Cover 2 a "Cover 2." Three different calls may add up to a "Cover 2," but the call is seldom that simplistic. Of course, these defensive coaches may name a particular combination, but responsibilities are a bit different from a 4-3's Cover 2, even from the Nickel.
Keep in mind, the two LBs will be aware of the DB's calls. They may have to adjust their blitz call if they need to drop into coverage. However, often they will play a Green Dog, which essentially means a delayed blitz. If the RB stays in to block instead of flaring out of the backfield, the LB(s) will blitz.
The fantastic part of a 4-2-5 is that the defense can easily adapt to what the offense does pre-snap. A strong-side blitz can be called in the blink of an eye while the Away Side can play Cover 3 principles or pattern match. It is also easy to disguise a blitz or coverage in this system.
From the little I know, it seems Dave Aranda must have been influenced by the 4-2-5 at some point in his career. Some of his slant, corner and LB blitzes are very similar to a 4-2-5.
TCU's "2 Read"
Gary Patterson videos
Another Gary Patterson video
If I were to coach football, I would use a 4-2-5. I absolutely love this system. I learned a lot of its intricacies at a coaches' clinic earlier this year. Hope this helps.
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