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re: ALRIGHT....
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:31 pm to MetryTyger
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:31 pm to MetryTyger
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The Ole Miss game was not Miles fault, IMO.
Do you think Miles put us in the best position to win that game?
Miles needs to be held accountable for the Ole Miss game. I'm not talking about the last play, I'm talking about calling a pass play - with a poor OLine and a QB who takes too many sacks - in FG range when all he had to do was run the ball with Ridley and get in better position for a FG attempt. That is playing the percentages, the percentage of winning is much higher if he played for the FG attempt and not risked a sack.
This post was edited on 3/2/10 at 1:33 pm
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Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:31 pm to JBREAUX4LSU
you have one down year in 08 and you come into the 09 year with more talent and you lose three games and then the bowl.
to florida (13-1) by ten, which if the refs didnt miss riley couper yankin on chris hawkins jersey for their td, it's a 3 point game.
to alabama (14-0) by 9, becuase of a bad miss on an interception by PP, and the drive before that we converted on 4th down and were driving when the back judge, not the line judge (the guy that's looking for that specifically), called a false start on barksdale.
and to ole miss, shouldnt have lost this one no doubt, but we didnt put them away when we should've and to say that wasn't a really good team means you didnt watch em, coaches mistake, move on.
win one of those games and you're probably in the sugarbowl, whippin cinncinatti. not playin in the mud with penn st.
if we can be that close in our "down years," i'll take it.
to florida (13-1) by ten, which if the refs didnt miss riley couper yankin on chris hawkins jersey for their td, it's a 3 point game.
to alabama (14-0) by 9, becuase of a bad miss on an interception by PP, and the drive before that we converted on 4th down and were driving when the back judge, not the line judge (the guy that's looking for that specifically), called a false start on barksdale.
and to ole miss, shouldnt have lost this one no doubt, but we didnt put them away when we should've and to say that wasn't a really good team means you didnt watch em, coaches mistake, move on.
win one of those games and you're probably in the sugarbowl, whippin cinncinatti. not playin in the mud with penn st.
if we can be that close in our "down years," i'll take it.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:34 pm to BamaFan21
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Certain positions, what certain position. Jordan Jefferson was not the only 1st year starting QB in the nation. Besides he had a whole year in 2008 to learn the offense. He sure looked like an all american that year in the bowl game. Everybody was praising him after that game saying he should have been the starter all year. Can't have it both ways.
Coaching, plain and simple......
yeah because of JJ..we won the game
W 38-3 142 yards....all because of JJ
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:36 pm to Chimlim
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Chimlim
ALRIGHT....
quote:
The Ole Miss game was not Miles fault, IMO.
Do you think Miles put us in the best position to win that game?
Miles needs to be held accountable for the Ole Miss game. I'm not talking about the last play, I'm talking about calling a pass play - with a poor OLine and a QB who takes too many sacks - in FG range when all he had to do was run the ball with Ridley and get in better position for a FG attempt. That is playing the percentages, the percentage of winning is much higher if he played for the FG attempt and not risked a sack.
Got a point there. I agree with most of that.
But I think Crowton should be faulted as well.
And also, the bad clock management - in the Ole Miss game and Penn State (Miles said he thought someone had called time out and didn't realize the clock was running_ - no excuse for that.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:37 pm to TigerBait1980
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Do you think Flynn would have not known what to do with the clock running down. There is not always time for coaches to think of every scenario possible. There are parts of games where aplayers instincts have to take over and Jefferson = confused.
Matt Flynn would've shite his pants in that situation when he was a sophomore.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:39 pm to jrich11
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jrich11
ALRIGHT....
you have one down year in 08 and you come into the 09 year with more talent and you lose three games and then the bowl.
to florida (13-1) by ten, which if the refs didnt miss riley couper yankin on chris hawkins jersey for their td, it's a 3 point game.
to alabama (14-0) by 9, becuase of a bad miss on an interception by PP, and the drive before that we converted on 4th down and were driving when the back judge, not the line judge (the guy that's looking for that specifically), called a false start on barksdale.
Absofrickinglutely.
Those blown and bad calls in the Fla and Bama games INFURIATED ME. I really went temporarily insane on each of them - to the point I scared the people around me
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:41 pm to MetryTyger
People forget om game wasn't nearly as close as score indicated
They beat our arse plain and simple for 55 of the 60 mins
They beat our arse plain and simple for 55 of the 60 mins
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:44 pm to blueboy
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How many times can you people say this before you finally realize that the "problem" IS the coaches
This. What leads anyone to believe that the coaches are capable of fixing anything. Besides Chavis and the D. Miles is full of crap.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 1:54 pm to TravelSmartly
I'm convinced we have some posters on this board that aren't taking full advantage of the god given talent they posess.
I'm talking about some dudes that have everything all figured out
I'm talking about some dudes that have everything all figured out
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:01 pm to BamaFan21
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BamaFan21
shut up you stupid gump, you're at the wrong forum
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:19 pm to geraldthemouse
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This post was edited on 3/2/10 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:20 pm to TigerBait1980
quote:who's job it is to develope the qb's?
Qb play has been the main problem the last two years. Not poor coaching.
quote:obviously miles doesn't feel this is important to coach these situations in practice.
An experienced qb knows what to do during that situation and is not looking to the sideline for help as time slips away.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:20 pm to JBREAUX4LSU
Good post in general. What I hope is happening is that since we still have some of the same coaches on units that greatly underperformed last year, is that they are being "coached up" as well. I joked on a previous post that Stud needed to go to an NFL O-line school in the off season. But now we have Gonzales as passing game coordinator, Frank Wilson as running backs coach and Ben Wilkerson assisting with the offensive line who will all hopefully add some new knowledge and abilities to help get our offense where it needs to be. Someone posted a while back that the statistics for Crowton's offense at his various coaching stops typically went down hill and in a hurry over the 3 or 4 year span that he would stay at a particular job. We've got to change that up and hopefully Miles and the AD recognize the need to do just that. I truly believe that this is the last season Miles has to prove that he can turn it around. Perhaps his buyout is too large, I don't know the exact figure after this season, BUT we know that his contract has not been "rolled over" after the last two seasons and I think they'd find a way to get it done if we don't significantly improve this year. One of the things that I worry about somewhat is that people report that Miles has been a CEO type of coach and lets the assistants do their jobs without much input. I have no idea how true that is but it would seem like he'd become much more involved with the units that have underachieved, especially on offense given that he comes from the offensive side of the ball. The letter that Alleva wrote to the fans/alumi after the bowl game (which was a first that I know of for an LSU AD), was a good sign that we are not going to let our program continue to slip into mediocrity. I think this year is make or break for Les and company.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:23 pm to LSUisOVER9000
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Certain positions, what certain position. Jordan Jefferson was not the only 1st year starting QB in the nation. Besides he had a whole year in 2008 to learn the offense. He sure looked like an all american that year in the bowl game. Everybody was praising him after that game saying he should have been the starter all year. Can't have it both ways.
Coaching, plain and simple......
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yeah because of JJ..we won the game
W 38-3 142 yards....all because of JJ
Hey, go back and read the posts on here after that game. I'm not the one saying it. It was most of your LSU breathren saying it.
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Certain positions, what certain position. Jordan Jefferson was not the only 1st year starting QB in the nation. Besides he had a whole year in 2008 to learn the offense. He sure looked like an all american that year in the bowl game. Everybody was praising him after that game saying he should have been the starter all year. Can't have it both ways.
Coaching, plain and simple......
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yeah because of JJ..we won the game
W 38-3 142 yards....all because of JJ
Hey, go back and read the posts on here after that game. I'm not the one saying it. It was most of your LSU breathren saying it.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:26 pm to BamaFan21
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If I am not mistaken this is the SEC RANT. If you don't want me posting take it to the Tiger Rant. Otherwise it is none of your business what I post.
You're completely fricking lost numb nuts.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:36 pm to LSUdm21
You are right about that one. I took the post off.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:39 pm to BamaFan21
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You are right about that one. I took the post off.
Kindly see your sorry arse to the Gump board (SEC Rant) please. TIA.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:41 pm to JBREAUX4LSU
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he knows football
Everybody knows football to some extent. To what extent he knows it (relative to other coaches) is in serious doubt.
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he knows what our problems are,
A coordinator who takes top 10 talent to a 112th place performance would seem to be a problem, but he apparently doesn't know that.
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I'm sure he and the coaching staff have a great plan in action to fix it.
Why? How can anybody be sure? We had serious problems in 2008, and many of them were not fixed in 2009, so what guarantee is there that 2009's problems will be fixed in 2010? You're not sure of anything, you are just engaging in wishful thinking.
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there are paid professionals right now working their asses of this whole spring, the whole offseason, and ever since the dreadful loss to Penn State, to fix the problems.
Those same "paid professionals" were supposedly working their asses off LAST spring, offseason and ever since the dreadful 8-5 finish of 2008 to fix the problems for 2009. It didn't work then, but suddenly will now? bullshite. They're paid, alright. Overpaid, obviously. But professionals? They've yet to show any sign of that.
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everyone in the world understands that we have underachieved the past two years
Apparently not the people whose job it is to prevent us from continuing to underachieve by firing the people responsible for the underachievement that we've already seen.
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he FULLY UNDERSTANDS the circumstances of the past two years
What does he understand? That he's not doing his job? That we've lost 9 games in two years, almost all of which were to teams with equal or lesser talent? Everybody understands that. What I want the guy being paid $4 million a year to be in charge to understand is how to avoid such underachievement in the first place, but at the very least, if it does occur, how to fix it. He's already proven he doesn't understand the former, and so far shows no signs of understanding the latter.
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enjoy baseball while it's here
Who's not enjoying baseball? I learned long ago how to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:42 pm to TravelSmartly
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What leads anyone to believe that the coaches are capable of fixing anything.
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Besides Chavis and the D.
i love this board. This post was edited on 3/2/10 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/2/10 at 2:44 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Why? How can anybody be sure? We had serious problems in 2008, and many of them were not fixed in 2009, so what guarantee is there that 2009's problems will be fixed in 2010? You're not sure of anything, you are just engaging in wishful thinking.
what is there left to fixed beside Crowton and Stud? do you have $4M for their buyouts?
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