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re: An Earlier Thread Asked How We Decided on Miles
Posted on 11/23/09 at 4:52 pm to barbi20000
Posted on 11/23/09 at 4:52 pm to barbi20000
say what you want about the miles hire, but if you are going to bash Skip and forget what he has done for LSU athletics then SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH. 
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Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:16 pm to LJBurton
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Absent that, he has been a complete fraud, finally exposed this week for all the world to see.
once again, idiot fans saying dumb shite with no basis in reality. everyone gets the benefit of the doubt but Miles.
Nutt has been in the SEC 12 years. if you cherry pick his 5 best years out of those 12, and hes 27-13 in the SEC.
Miles is 26-13 in the SEC.
yet according to you, Miles has been a "terrible complete fraud disaster", while Nutt would have been a good caretaker and a decent hire, even though his record is much much worse.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:17 pm to MastrShake
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once again, idiot fans saying dumb shite with no basis in reality. everyone gets the benefit of the doubt but Miles.
Nutt has been in the SEC 12 years. if you cherry pick his 5 best years out of those 12, and hes 27-13 in the SEC.
Miles is 26-13 in the SEC.
yet according to you, Miles has been a "terrible complete fraud disaster", while Nutt would have been a good caretaker and a decent hire, even though his record is much much worse.
You can't compare the two. Give Nutt the keys to the Jaguar that Miles inherited and I guarantee he gets better results. Give Miles the talent level that Nutt had on his squads, and what do you think the results are?
No basis in reality? Give me a break. Reality has finally set in. Make bad decisions, you ultimately get bad results. We are talking about the guy who calls timeout after an interception to stop the clock aren't we? Do you endorse this type of coaching?
Miles' record is strictly a result of the overwhelming talent advantage his teams have had. His luck has run out. Get your head out of the sand for God sakes.
I'll take Nutt for Miles straight up, any day. Hell, I'd be hard pressed to find any SEC coach that I wouldn't make that deal for.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:22 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Miles was the fat ugly chick at the bar at 4:00am.
And that hurts you every time doesn't it?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:34 pm to Gray Tiger
I agree with what most of the posters have said about the hiring process. However, if you think back to that year, the reason pickings became "slim" is that for the second season in a row, Saban held the program hostage by interveiwing with the Dolphins (Bears the year before), and then announced his decision on Christmas night. That put us very late in the game for coaches, especially considering several high-profile coaches had already been hired by other programs, as well as what happened with Petrino and Del Rio.
FWIW, this isn't a knock on Saban per se. He wanted to coach in the NFL, so be it, but more of a slight criticism of waiting so late to "make up his mind."
FWIW, this isn't a knock on Saban per se. He wanted to coach in the NFL, so be it, but more of a slight criticism of waiting so late to "make up his mind."
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:47 pm to SunnySixkiller
All this leads to Jerry Jones being interested in LM?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:17 am to thejudge
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bullshite. He was a terrible hire. Saban recommended Nutt, which would have been at worst a decent hire, maybe not a homerun, but a good caretaker of what had been established. Miles has been a disaster. His NC was a fluke of epic proportions ... a combination of an overwhelming talent advantage over almost every opponent and an incredible run of good luck. I'll give him his due on this one point - he had a good gameplan for Ohio State and the team executed well. Absent that, he has been a complete fraud, finally exposed this week for all the world to see. I just can't believe it took this long to bite him in the arse. All of the stupid decisions, like "going for the win" against Auburn, never seemed to backfire on him. His luck has run out. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him and his absurdly high buyout for quite some time. Welcome to mediocrity Tiger fans.
98% accurate.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:20 am to specs1
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And there you have it. I honestly believe and have heard this from others, that this is what transpired.
Nobody else was available. Beating OU a couple of times got Les the job.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:30 am to mrbayoublu
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Don't know about Skip and Saban relationship, but how we searched for a Coach is summed up correctly.
We looked at Petrino, and Louisville almost melted down, threatening to fire Petrino if he so much as blinked at LSU.
Skip and others did go to Jacksonville, Florida to speak with Jack del Rio. He was interested, but the owner told him that if he talked to LSU, he was out of a job.
Pickin's became slim. Les Miles was a reasonable option at the time. Similar to Saban when he was at Michigan State.
Miles won 10 games a year for three years in a row and our fans were still restless. Why? Execution on the offensive side of the football was "off" a bit, not sloppy like these last two years, just tilting that way, but with 10 win seasons and blow out bowls, including a NC, then Miles was pretty secure.
Weak execution of the football team in different areas has been a trademark for Miles. That is why the fans have been restless all these years. When Saban's disciplined players graduated and moved on, then sloppiness escalated to the point of where it is now.
Miles created the show he is in. Not the fans. He has been paid lots of money and won an NC, so if he can not produce a disciplined product on the field, then that's his problem, not the fans.
Eventually, poor execution catches up with a team. That is was is happening here. Everyone can try to explain why, but the bottom line is, this LSU football team belongs to Les Miles and for the last two years, execution on the field has been way below any standard of acceptability, regardless of talent.
Even with the defense producing "improved" results, our defense manages to stay on the field way too long, thus providing two terrible consequences: 1. The defense is burned out by the fourth quarter. 2. The offense only gets 50 plays a game.
LSU fans will back their team all the way to the bottom of the trenches if effort and execution is there. Effort slipped last year and has begun slipping since Alabama this year. The slipping effort is directly attributable to poor execution, which is Les Miles' responsibility.
Everyone needs to read this post a few times.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:39 am to specs1
As I recall, Skip was looking to make a hire similar to Saban ... NFL experience, moderate success at a school that played "second fiddle" to a bigger program, etc. Miles fit the description and the rest is history.
For those saying Nutt would have been a better choice, I beg to differ. He may have been fine for a couple of years, but he would not have sustained the level of recruiting and LSU would have tanked faster than they are now.
For those saying Nutt would have been a better choice, I beg to differ. He may have been fine for a couple of years, but he would not have sustained the level of recruiting and LSU would have tanked faster than they are now.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:53 am to 1984Tiger
I agree, Nutt is an awful recruiter. look at Ole Miss this year with 1 or 2 4 star recruits. I predict Nutt will leave Ole Miss before the bottom falls out.
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