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re: Any Alex Box workers/architects in the know
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:12 pm to Dodd
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:12 pm to Dodd
looking at the pics again, it looks like those 3 steel columns and the beams are all architectural. It looks like there are fire protected steel columns behind the steel you guys are focusing on.
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Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:16 pm to Dodd
The stadium still looks good.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:46 am to mikethetiger
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Hmmmm...interesting.
See dude. The great unwashed kept the topic floating until more "in the know" posters found it. Isn't it wonderful when things work out well. It looked iffy for awhile what with all the asking posters not working on the project to not post in the thread and stuff.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 6:56 am to Methuselah
It think a very reasonable for the beam to be structural. The main frame along that line has to be a "rigid" frame with "rigid" connections, which mean it is a horizontal force resisting mechanism for the wing of structure in that direction.
Rigid frames are great architecturally, because they leave room for open spaces, as opposed to braced frames in which diagonal bracing is put in between bays. However, rigid frames are not as desirable structurally, because they are subject to a lot more horizontal deflection when the wind is blowing. Looking at the architectural finish, which is brick veneer, it is very conceivable that the beam is there to help reduce deflection in the frame. Since brick veneer is such a brittle architectural finish, it commands more stringent deflection requirements. Having that additional beam below would help attenuate the deflection of that frame.
That all being said, it could easily be something else.
Rigid frames are great architecturally, because they leave room for open spaces, as opposed to braced frames in which diagonal bracing is put in between bays. However, rigid frames are not as desirable structurally, because they are subject to a lot more horizontal deflection when the wind is blowing. Looking at the architectural finish, which is brick veneer, it is very conceivable that the beam is there to help reduce deflection in the frame. Since brick veneer is such a brittle architectural finish, it commands more stringent deflection requirements. Having that additional beam below would help attenuate the deflection of that frame.
That all being said, it could easily be something else.
This post was edited on 12/19/08 at 7:01 am
Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:31 am to urinetrouble
I love eavesdropping on a conversation, where the participants know what they are talking about, and it is a field I am not familiar with. The weather stuff on the OT during a storm are great also.
I wish this would happen more often on here.
I wish this would happen more often on here.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 9:46 am to Krypto
Krypto,
Thanks for responding. When I saw that the windows were different than the renderings, I just became curious as to why things had changed. I wasn't interested in bashing anyone for the change, just wanting to know the reasons behind it. At first I figured it was just a cost savings. Then I thought "why have the beam there in the first place if it was a cost issue?". That was me assuming it wasn't structural. Now, it looks like it is a structural beam that was also intended to be an architectural element in the renderings. But, I see that there are other reasons for the change.
Again, thanks for responding. I was hoping someone involved with the project would chime in and you did. Is there anything else that inquiring minds, like mine, would be surprised to know or find interesting about the Alex Box project?
Thanks for responding. When I saw that the windows were different than the renderings, I just became curious as to why things had changed. I wasn't interested in bashing anyone for the change, just wanting to know the reasons behind it. At first I figured it was just a cost savings. Then I thought "why have the beam there in the first place if it was a cost issue?". That was me assuming it wasn't structural. Now, it looks like it is a structural beam that was also intended to be an architectural element in the renderings. But, I see that there are other reasons for the change.
Again, thanks for responding. I was hoping someone involved with the project would chime in and you did. Is there anything else that inquiring minds, like mine, would be surprised to know or find interesting about the Alex Box project?
Posted on 12/19/08 at 9:51 am to Methuselah
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See dude. The great unwashed kept the topic floating until more "in the know" posters found it. Isn't it wonderful when things work out well. It looked iffy for awhile what with all the asking posters not working on the project to not post in the thread and stuff.
I figured someone out there, that is working on the project, actually posted on the Rant. It took a few days, but there was a response. Even the educated responses were good. I guess the Rant is not as hopeless afterall.
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