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Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by appfan
Member since Jul 2008
477 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:43 pm to
You're not serious are you? AE is still there...
Posted by champ24
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2008
64 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:43 pm to
App State QB AE is only a junior. Mcnease St. is NOWHERE close to App State, how bout Mcnease St. first try to win a home playoff game. UNC is better than ppl think, they had 4 players out of the ESPN top 50 sign with them last year.
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2584 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:45 pm to
take out AE, and I'd say they were pretty close..
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:46 pm to
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You're not serious are you? AE is still there...

During the game last night i think it was jaws that said app state and lsu will both be starting new quarterbacks and that is not good for app state. ESPN is never wrong.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13450 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:46 pm to
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And even if App St does have some success early with the game plan you prescribed (which I concede is possible) do you think its sustainable to the extent they may be able to keep the game close? I just think we'd be able to exploit that unbalanced approach very quickly.


It's actually a really good exercise to try to think of ways in which your team can lose... this is what I'm trying to do. This would be the way I can see it happening.

1.) App State needs to empty the bag of tricks. They need at least two if not three long scoring plays. Run a couple of double reverses, reverse passes, QB throwbacks, option passes, etc (ETA: get lucky and get away with a rub/pick play). This is one way they could capitalize on youth in the secondary if they bite early on a play behind the LOS. This game will not be low-scoring.

2.) App State needs the ball to bounce their way on special teams. LSU losing Fisher will probably result in losing at least 40 yards a game if teams can force 3-5 punts. Also, just like last year, who is our punt returner? Is it Chad Jones? Patrick Peterson? App State has to hope to recover a muffed punt or fumbled kick/punt return.

3.) App State has to make LSU throw the ball, because one thing is for sure. They can't put a hat-on-a-hat and stop LSU's run game. LSU's O-linemen outweigh App State's D-line by something like 30 pounds a man. They also hold an advantage in strength and athleticism. App State will need the front 7 and probably both safeties to keep LSU from running at will. Will this leave them vulnerable to the passing game (especially playaction)? Yes, but it's a chance they'll have to take.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 2:51 pm
Posted by EZTIGER
cenla
Member since May 2008
1154 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:49 pm to
App St - Ae = Mcneese.
Posted by appfan
Member since Jul 2008
477 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:49 pm to
Oh of course not...ESPN would never say anything wrong...
Posted by champ24
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2008
64 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:54 pm to
App St is more than AE. Matter of fact freshman Deandre Pressely is pushing AE at that QB spot. Same Deandre Pressely who turned down offers from USF, UCF, GA Tech, and Baylor. But App State has speed all over the Rb & Wr spots, (know you heard of Cocoa Hillary). You Lsu fans will be surprised to see the number of playmakers App State has.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
5032 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:05 pm to
He knew he wouldnt get playing time at any of those schools
Posted by champ24
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2008
64 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:10 pm to
Are you fricking serious? Baylor?, UCF?, hell he'll get some PT at USF.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
5032 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:12 pm to
I am sorry to say it they are better than yall.
Posted by APPsolutelyTheBest
Member since Jul 2008
24 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:43 pm to
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App St or McNeese
Appalachian State isn't even the best team in their conference. They just got good the past 4 or 5 years. Georgia Southern is the powerhouse in that conference and will be. Win 6 national championships then you would be considered the Best in 1-AA


All things being equal, then it can be said that LSU isn't even the best team in their conference. They just got good the past 5 years. ALABAMA is the powerhouse in that conference and will be. Win 10 BCS National Championships (non-playoff style) and then you could be considered the Best in the SEC. Win 13 BCS National Championships and we'll consider you for the Best in I-A.

This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 6:05 pm
Posted by asknoquarter21
Asheville
Member since Aug 2008
22 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

All things being equal, then it can be said that LSU isn't even the best team in their conference. They just got good the past 5 years. ALABAMA is the powerhouse in that conference and will be. Will 10 BCS National Championships (non-playoff style) and then you could be considered the Best in the SEC. Win 13 BCS National Championships and we'll consider you for the Best in I-A.


It doesn't matter which is historically the best.

until someone beats them LSU is the best...just like app is in the FCS.

Those points above seem pretty valid...the playmakers that Appalachian has have the ability to break those long plays. LSU is very fast and it certainly won't be easy.

As far as the trick plays go...we have a WR who came in as a higher rated QB recruit than Armanti in CoCo Hillary

I agree that we will need a big special teams play if we are going to win, but not necessarily to keep it close...

I think we have to be on our A game or it could get away pretty quick
Posted by JO4ASU
Greensboro NC
Member since Jul 2008
69 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 4:05 pm to
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They just got good the past 4 or 5 years


Since 1986 App has been to the playoffs 15 times. They have been consistantly good. They just recently have been good enough to win national championships.
Posted by ericsaid
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2008
51 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Appalachian State isn't even the best team in their conference. They just got good the past 4 or 5 years. Georgia Southern is the powerhouse in that conference and will be. Win 6 national championships then you would be considered the Best in 1-AA


They never did win three in a row. App has and still is(atleast until playoff time) the best team in FCS and have been for the past 3 years. App is better then the bottom feeders or middle dwellers of FBS. Navy was a bowl team last year and Delaware beat them. App had Delaware 49-14 with 3 minutes left in the game. Delaware beat Northern Iowa who beat Iowa State. Northern Iowa beat New Hampshire who beat Marshall by a pretty large margin. App beat the Citadel who had Wisconsin tied through the 3rd 28-28. They are better then the bottom feeders and will not get blown out per say.

41-21 is what i'm saying. With Armanti and our RB's and fast, yes I said fast WR's most in the 4.4's and probably one or possibly 2 barely running a 4.3. Our DB's aren't that slow and aren't that small FYI. 6'0 safety 6'1 CB 5'11 CB and 5'10 safety, they aren't the midgets from intramural football team on the Naked Mile. Also run quite fast with one CB running a 4.43 out of high school which im sure has sped up a little. The safeties running around 4.48's and other corner running around a 4.45-4.5. Our speed won't match up completely but it we definently won't be run around like we're sitting still. It's called containment and execution. There enough speed to contain and execute and if that happens i'll give it 41-21.
Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

take out AE, and I'd say they were pretty close..


I think that even with AE, if they'd played early in the season, it'd been very interesting. But by the time the playoffs came McNeese was playing without their conference's player of the year from the previous season, their top two running backs, their top defensive player (who was drafted in the third round), and a number of others.

Believe me, I'd loved to have seen the McNeese team that played against Portland State and ULL early in the season host Appalachian State in the playoffs.

Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 6:47 pm to
Eric, what App State has accomplished is remarkable. But it was lucky...LUCKY...to get out of the first round of the FCS playoffs last year against JMU. It was also lucky...LUCKY...to get by Furman during the 2005 playoffs.

Enjoy your run. But you had some luck. 2006 I don't think there was any doubt that App State was the best team in I-AA/FCS. But the other two years...you were good enough to win it if the breaks went your way. And they went your way.
Posted by phillyAPP
Member since Feb 2008
568 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 7:49 pm to
I appreciate your posts but besides JMU we kicked everyone elses best shot in the playoffs for three years straight.

APP fight every play from start to finish.
Posted by Double A
Charlotte
Member since Jul 2008
70 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 8:23 pm to
All things being equal, then it can be said that LSU isn't even the best team in their conference. They just got good the past 5 years. ALABAMA is the powerhouse in that conference and will be. Win 10 BCS National Championships (non-playoff style) and then you could be considered the Best in the SEC.

Correction. Win 13 national titles (one more than Bama) and then you can be considered numero uno in the SEC
Posted by champ24
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2008
64 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:58 pm to
Mcnease St is overrated
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