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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:39 pm to
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That's almost a TD every three touches. Don't have a calculator to be exact, but that's sick


Posted by MCSquared16
Member since Jan 2009
3450 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:39 pm to
I dunno Doc, where's that LaTech pic you had saved that you posted every 10 mins? Have you made a Vandy one as well?
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:39 pm to
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i dont expect you to see it, but you were.


you arent the same now as you were then but about a year ago you were an a-hole



I second that. Maybe the jump from 17-18 or whatever age you are matured you a little bit.


This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 10:41 pm
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3149 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:40 pm to
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Don't y'all think the coaches know what kind of QB talent is on the team and who gives them the best chance to win.


Your coaches do….ours don't. I hate to admit it, but its true
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26672 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:42 pm to
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97 yards on 4.5 drives, 1 TD
152 yards on 6.5 drives, 1 TD

You're using overall yardage, something that factors in rushing yardage, to judge the QB play?



How about you use the actual QB stats and go by yards/pass attempt

10-17 114 yards 6.7 YPA 1 td, 0 int
4-10 44 yards 4.4 YPA 0 td, 1 int

Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:42 pm to
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JL played no worse at Bama last season than JJ did, and the offense actually did better when he was in.


Thanks for clarifying for me you are delusional. I suspected it a long time, but now I know for sure.

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The LT game was the LT game. Lee carried a lot of baggage into that game.


Okay, so it was the baggage that Lee carried that made him perform worse than I ever saw an LSU QB perform in my entire life. Okay, I knew something was bound to be weighting him down. Thanks for clarifying again.

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JJ had his good games, like against Georgia & Auburn & UNC, where he was better than JL in 2008. But then again, JL was a freshman who started the spring 3rd string, whereas JJ was a veteran sophomore who went through an entire spring at 1st string going into 2009. He should have been better than the 2008 version of JL.


He was a lot better? Re-watch the Bama and La Tech games and the entire 2008 season and then compare statistics when you are sober.

So for JJ has had one really bad game and that was last Saturday's games, the overwhelming majority of JL's games have been awful, and you can make all the lame excuses you want, but the facts are the facts.

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We still don't know who the better QB is for sure, but Lee definitely deserves a shot to show he's improved from his freshman year when he was thrown into the fire unprepared and consistently directed and expected to make big plays to try to win games with his arm (b/c the defense was so damn horrible) on a regular basis.


That's not true. When given a shot to redeem himself last season against Alabama and La Tech, Lee miserably failed and unlike you, he readily admits it. Don't believe me, read the paper. Now, unless he has improved drastically from his previous performances, he will not be better than Jefferson although I hope I am wrong because we need someone to QB this team.

Nevertheless, I don't think it matters that much who quarterbacks the team, they are both are going to stink unless and until Miles fires Crowton. If I were Miles I'd fire Crowton and replace him with Ensminger for the rest of the season, as Ensminger had far more experience coaching quarterbacks and being a OC than he has coaching TEs.





Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:44 pm to
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Doc, amoss, roaad, big ez, dead fish Im eager to here all reasons/excuses why yall feel JJ still struggles so much after 16 starts.
I have stated the need to play Lee last night. . .as I did during the game.

JJ had something going wrong upstairs. He should have been sitting midway through the 2nd quarter. It was obvious he wasn't going to play through it.

He usually plays well enough to win, but he looked like a true freshman in his first game last night.
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:45 pm to
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Doc Fenton

I have to disagree on the Bama Game last year.

JJ was off to a really good game until he got hurt. JL looked miserable in his stead.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:46 pm to
Yep. And 1-6 in the last 2 drives of the game when LSU was in desperation mode going against the best pass rushing defense in the nation with an O-line that was very shitty at pass blocking.

You gotta look at context. Lee was really not worse than Jefferson against Bama.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:46 pm to
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I have stated the need to play Lee last night.

JJ had something going wrong upstairs. He should have been sitting midway through the 2nd quarter. It was obvious he wasn't going to play through it.

He usually plays well enough to win, but he looked like a true freshman in his first game last night.


+1

from what I heard though JJ had an IV
he was sick and/or dehydrated
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:48 pm to
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from what I heard though JJ had an IV
he was sick and/or dehydrated
If that is true, what is so wrong with Lee that they couldn't just put him in?

Whomsoever's call that is, they need to be reprimanded.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:49 pm to
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JJ was off to a really good game until he got hurt.


Huh? He scored one time and then left Lee with a 2nd and 25 in LSU territory late in the 3rd quarter. How is that a really good game?
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 10:50 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:49 pm to
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JL looked miserable in his stead.


Lee moved the team and was fine until LSU fell behind by two scores and the running game was taken away.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:50 pm to
10/17 114 1 TD, No INT's.

That's a solid start against Bama's defense
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:51 pm to
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the team had nothing to play for in the La Tech game


Okay I see why you couldn't make it at LSU and had to go to MSU.

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A chance of winning the bama game was robbed from them.


Then what caused JL to take sacks and when he wasn't being sacked to throw passes directly to the defenders who luckily were so shocked they dropped the balls.

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Yall dont think that affected the whole team, hearing about getting screwed all week?


Yeah one bad call on a very close play with the first string quarterback knocked out of the game caused the team to have a collective nervous breakdown that lasted threw the La Tech game.

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Not to mention losing the starting running back.


Even though Keiland was the only bright spot of the La Tech game. Yeah right.

Don't lose your day job clerking at the convenience store anytime soon because you won't find another.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:51 pm to
Bingo. Lee was about 1000 times better at trying to give his receivers a shot to make a big play in those last 2 drives than Jefferson was in the same situation against UF. It wasn't even close. Anybody who thinks Jefferson better suited to those specific kinds of situations than Lee is plain nuts.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26672 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:51 pm to
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You gotta look at context. Lee was really not worse than Jefferson against Bama.

His 56.96 QB rating says otherwise.

The only thing Lee did against bama to actually help us win was hand the ball off to Scott and Ridley and complete a 20 yard pass on a drive that ended in a punt.
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 10:52 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:51 pm to
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from what I heard though JJ had an IV
he was sick and/or dehydrated


not sure what happened in the locker room at half time, but from the stands I never saw him struggling or receiving any type of medical attention...
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:52 pm to
He did not play noticeably better than Lee that game. You can throw out all the statistics you want. He just didn't.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 10:53 pm to
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His 56.96 QB rating says otherwise.


Don't be a toolbag.
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