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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:24 pm to
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But, let me ask, what makes everyone so confident that a team with an adequate defense and awesome passing offense(Boise, Stanford, OU, Oklahoma St) couldn't beat LSU(team with awesome defense but only adequate offense?)


man, it's not mathematics; there is no linear relationship nor standard deviations. those teams with awesome passing and adequate defense don't beat the awesome defense teams BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCORE ENOUGH POINTS TO WIN. it has been proven over and over again. have you been living under a rock or are you an okie lite fan.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

TheSexecutioner

keep ignoring the topic at hand, it will serve you better than trying to defend the idiocy in the OP
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:27 pm to
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As I recall TN Bhoy was clowning himself in that thread with claims of Bray being better than Kellen Moore


FTFY

And that's a correct statement. We'll see who's in the NFL in a few years.


Dis thread be bookmarked.

Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:28 pm to
Oklahoma St - adequate defense?

Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6879 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:32 pm to
It's simple,

Our D>their O
Our O >their D

It's not Offense vs Offense
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:32 pm to
People keep running on about history but it seems to me history has shown the formula for winning is having an offense that puts up lots of points and a defense that can hold a team to only a few scores.

Since the BCS started in 1998, the winner of the game has averaged 33 points and the loser 19.

Is 33-19 average score really that supportive of Defense wins championships? 52 combined points is a lot.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:35 pm to
go find the overall and scoring defense ranks for the WINNING team in the BCS CG since 1998.

im willing to bet both are significantly better than anything okie state has to offer on average.
Posted by GeauxGus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
5219 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:38 pm to
... You, sir, are an eediot !
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:39 pm to
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im willing to bet both are significantly better than anything okie state has to offer on average.


Agreed. I don't think Oklahoma St will make it past Oklahoma, though.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:40 pm to
Who says LSU and Bama can't score lots of points?

They were averaging 40 ppg going into last night.

Just because they don't subscribe to the "throw it 45 times a game for 350 yards" style of offense doesn't mean they can't put points on the board.

I would take LSU or Bama's running game over OSU's passing game any day of the week.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:41 pm to
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And don't give me this "great defenses beat good offenses nonsense." If that were the case, the NFL wouldn't be becoming such an offensive game. With a good quarterback, there is just no way to cover all receivers regardless of how great a defense is.



PI in the NFL is a spot foul whereas in college, its only 15 yards. That is one of the biggest reasons the NFL has become a passing league, and the fact they toned back what corners could do because Bill Polian cried to the competition committee after the Patriots would rough his WRs up. Oh, and here's your example why you are dead wrong. 2007 New England Patriots lost in the Super Bowl to a team that could rush the passer. That is one of the best passing teams known to man, and they were beat because of defense.

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I understand we beat Oregon but they hardly have the passing ability to have a really prolific offense. In my opinion, good run defense>good running team but good passing defense<good passing offense.



Uh, what? Going into the game last night, our QB had 13 touchdowns and 1 interception. OH NOZ, A MAINLY RUNNING TEAM DIDN'T THROW FOR TEXAS TECH TYPE NUMBERS!!?!??! Watch more football, then maybe you won't look dumb as shite trying to talk about it on the Rant.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:43 pm to
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I would take LSU or Bama's running game over OSU's passing game any day of the week.


Really? I wouldn't
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I would take LSU or Bama's running game over OSU's passing game any day of the week.


Really? I wouldn't


I guess you don't place much emphasis on ball control and controlling the tempo of the game.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:46 pm to
Sure, if they played each other again.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:47 pm to
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Since the BCS started in 1998, the winner of the game has averaged 33 points and the loser 19.



Thats a loaded stat. In almost every schedule lies at least 3 cream puffs that are designed to be blown out. Who cares if you put up 30 or 50 on them if your defense holds them to 3?

Oh and running the ball limits an oppositions total amount of drives,and if done right, keeps their offense on the sideline. This will usually throw the offense into a funk, especially if its based on timing throws.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 12:54 pm
Posted by BlackRaven
"im on a boat"
Member since Oct 2011
148 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:48 pm to
cause "gr8 defense" win championships......nm.....always does and always will.....reap it.......
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20781 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:51 pm to
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TheSexecutioner


You never wore a helmet did you? If you did, did you ever listen to your coach?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:52 pm to
quote:


Thats a loaded stat. In almost every schedule lies at least 3 cream puffs that are designed to be blown out. Who cares if you put up 30 or 50 on them if your defense holds them to 3?


I should have been more clear. They have averaged that in the actual BCS Championship game. Not their season average. So the average score of the BCS Championship game is 33-19. Not really a loaded stat.
Posted by RollTide316
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2011
483 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:52 pm to
Maybe we both look beatable if we play against two teams that are as good as Alabama and LSU but there are none.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 12:54 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:53 pm to
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You never wore a helmet did you? If you did, did you ever listen to your coach?


Wait, did you play high school football? I didn't know we had an ex-ball player in this thread. You should have said something. We would have all stood down and just taken your opinion since you used to play football.
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