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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:54 pm to
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They have averaged that in the actual BCS Championship game. Not their season average. So the average score of the BCS Championship game is 33-19. Not really a loaded stat


And LSU's never scored 33 points before?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:55 pm to
33 points against the number 1 or 2 team in the nation? This LSU team? No, not to my knowledge. They scored 6 though
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:56 pm to
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I should have been more clear. They have averaged that in the actual BCS Championship game. Not their season average. So the average score of the BCS Championship game is 33-19. Not really a loaded stat.



Dude, here is your big problem. You're equating passing yardage to how many points a team puts up.

Using your own national championship example, LSU hung 38 on Ohio State.

Guess how many yards they passed for in doing it......

174
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:57 pm to
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And LSU's never scored 33 points before?


In any event, that's not my point. If we can score 33 points, great. I have no doubt nobody scores more than that on us. I brought that stat up only to refute people saying that history proves defense wins championships.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:57 pm to
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Let me start off by saying that both LSU and Alabama's defense were incredible. That said, the offenses were nothing short of pitiful


I don't think you realize that you answered your own opinion. What would two great D's do to any Offense? Both D's held each other's O to 150yds below their ave.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:58 pm to
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33 points against the number 1 or 2 team in the nation? This LSU team? No, not to my knowledge. They scored 6 though




I'll take the 40 we put up against #6.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:58 pm to
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33 points against the number 1 or 2 team in the nation? This LSU team? No, not to my knowledge. They scored 6 though

damn you really are dense.

there were 15 or more draft picks on the field, just on defense last night.

there isnt a single team in college football that was going to score a ton yesterday.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:59 pm to
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I would take LSU or Bama's running game over OSU's passing game any day of the week.




Really? I wouldn't


And your team would lose...
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:59 pm to
I am not. I understand they are not the same. I never said I think Oklahoma/Okla St would score 33 points. I just pointed out that the winner of the championship game has scored that many. How they do it is irrelevant. But it disproves the "history proves defense wins championships" nonsense I was getting thrown at me.
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:00 pm to
So wait, they both looked beatable in one game this year? And it just happen to be in the one game where it had been said that only the opponent could beat the other... shocking that it happened in this game.
Posted by Volt
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I should have been more clear. They have averaged that in the actual BCS Championship game. Not their season average. So the average score of the BCS Championship game is 33-19. Not really a loaded stat.



And in five of those games, the winning teams scored 24 or less.

Variance is a really cool thing to learn if you're going to start using averages.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110273 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:04 pm to
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I am not. I understand they are not the same. I never said I think Oklahoma/Okla St would score 33 points. I just pointed out that the winner of the championship game has scored that many. How they do it is irrelevant. But it disproves the "history proves defense wins championships" nonsense I was getting thrown at me.


Your application of logic is as bad as whatever point you think you're making.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:04 pm to
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So wait, they both looked beatable in one game this year? And it just happen to be in the one game where it had been said that only the opponent could beat the other... shocking that it happened in this game.



LSU missed 2 wide open receivers for TDs. Nobody wants to address that. Do you people truly believe Luck wouldn't have made those throws?

It's not the fact that they played a close game that makes them beatable. It's that the offenses were very unimpressive even considering the quality of the defense. Two wide open throws missed and two terrible interceptions thrown into double coverage.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:06 pm to
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LSU missed 2 wide open receivers for TDs. Nobody wants to address that. Do you people truly believe Luck wouldn't have made those throws


the problem with that is you are assuming a stanford player would be "wide open" against either of those defenses.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:07 pm to
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LSU missed 2 wide open receivers for TDs. Nobody wants to address that. Do you people truly believe Luck wouldn't have made those throws?

It's not the fact that they played a close game that makes them beatable. It's that the offenses were very unimpressive even considering the quality of the defense. Two wide open throws missed and two terrible interceptions thrown into double coverage.


Who cares? Maybe Luck would, maybe he wouldn't.

You don't think LSU would be able to run at will against Stanford, wear down their defense and use the play-action to hit the big ones?

You know...just like they did in pretty much every game this season before they ran into Bama's semi-professional defense?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:07 pm to
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And in five of those games, the winning teams scored 24 or less.

Variance is a really cool thing to learn if you're going to start using averages.


And of those 5 games(out of 13), only 1 did the winning team score less than 20. You are a total fool if you think that those numbers are very scewed by a non-normal distribution. I don't feel like calculating the variance, but from the looks of it, it is not very high.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:08 pm to
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You don't think LSU would be able to run at will against Stanford, wear down their defense and use the play-action to hit the big ones?


That's what I asked originally, and I said that, personally, I think we could. I still believe we have the best team but I am now a little bit less confident that we can score enough points.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6670 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:10 pm to
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TheSexecutioner


So who's team are you trolling for? You clearly are not an LSU fan...
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:10 pm to
TheSexecutioner give it up your arguement is weak and full of holes.

Did you hear Urban Myer after the game talking about the defense players on the field last night and that he has never seen anything like it not even close?
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