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re: CFN says LSU hosed
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:11 pm to profwilson
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:11 pm to profwilson
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Would we be in the top 12 then? With the current rankings, I think clearly not.
I doubt any 9-3 team, with one top 25 win, would be in the top 12.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:12 pm
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:11 pm to BayouBengals03
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We lost by 5 touchdowns. No one else in contention has done that.
No one else in contention played at JHS@PDF either.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:13 pm to bigpapamac
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bigpapamac
In what way is it a conspiracy to point out that those running media want to have programs that will generate the most viewership so that they can charge the most money possible for ad revenue in those programs?
Basic common sense if you know anything about media buying.
In this case, we have had the loudest voice in sports campaigning for a while now for a playoff...that they will now have exclusive broadcast rights to...
What makes the playoff a success for ESPN? If your answer has anything to do with something other than ratings, you're wrong.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:14 pm to GeauxTigerTM
So who is ESPN schilling for?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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Who has a better one besides the teams in front of them
They are 1-1 against teams with a pulse, which isn't that impressive. A win over Bama doesn't make your resume great. Their opponents are 37-25 on the year so they haven't exactly played a bunch of juggernauts.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:15 pm to profwilson
Massey Poll of 114 Polls has LSU at 9. So why do some people on here think it is outrageous to think we are a top 10 team? The pollsters from across the country clearly think so.
We have victories against the #2, 27, 39 & 43 teams from that Massey site. Our losses are to #1 & 4.
Massey Ratings College Football Ranking Comparison
We have victories against the #2, 27, 39 & 43 teams from that Massey site. Our losses are to #1 & 4.
Massey Ratings College Football Ranking Comparison
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:16 pm to RB10
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They are 1-1 against teams with a pulse, which isn't that impressive. A win over Bama doesn't make your resume great. Their opponents are 37-25 on the year so they haven't exactly played a bunch of juggernauts.
So what you're saying is you can't think of a single team to put in front of them. Got it.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:17 pm to RB10
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They are 1-1 against teams with a pulse, which isn't that impressive. A win over Bama doesn't make your resume great. Their opponents are 37-25 on the year so they haven't exactly played a bunch of juggernauts.
You didn't answer the question. Who among the 1-loss contenders would you put ahead of them? It's relatively early, any 1-loss teams behind them are 1-1 against teams with a "pulse" at best.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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What makes the playoff a success for ESPN? If your answer has anything to do with something other than ratings, you're wrong.
+1
this is about audience ===> ratings ===> revenues
if they had really wanted the best 4 teams, there would be NO COMMITTEE ..just the computer
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:18 pm to roguetiger15
[quote]definitly a head scratcher. i'd like to know how they come up with the rankings say after number 10 or so[/quo
This is what I hate. After getting top 6 they recycle and vote again.
This is what I hate. After getting top 6 they recycle and vote again.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:18 pm to rbdallas
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if they had really wanted the best 4 teams, there would be NO COMMITTEE ..just the computer
Yea, because computers are never flawed
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:18 pm to baytiger
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I am NOT advocating this AT ALL...but the ONLY way to have a legit, unbiased playoff system would be to scrap polling altogether, set up a system similar to the NFL in which conferences act like divisions and teams have to win their way in. Anything short of a well defined mathematical system is simply Olympic figure skating judging in different clothes.
I'm gonna disagree.
Sometimes the top 2-8 teams might just be all in the same division. Why should we reward those who crushed their way through weak competition to get to the post season? I say we scrap the bias altogether and just move into straight computer polls. If you can't prove your system is completely free from bias (release the fricking formula Sagarin), it doesn't belong in any postseason determination. Then take a 6-8 team playoff from that and be done with it.
Like I said, I'm not advocating that...just that if we want to take any and all eye ball testing out of the equation, the only way to do it would be a system like the NFL. You win, you move on. You don't, you don't.
FWIW, I actually agree with the eyeball est to a certain degree and think it's what has made college football the best at REALLY getting their national champion correct most of the time. It's not about getting hot late and winning a tourney, it's about which team was the best ALL SEASON. It's the New England Patriots versus NY Giants argument. Those that support a playoff enjoy the fact that the Giants beat an undefeated Patriots team that had smoked the league all year. those that don;t like to see the team that was the best rewarded for that.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:19 pm to therick711
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No one else in contention played at JHS@PDF either.
They've played at Ole Miss.
They've played at Baylor.
They've played at Auburn.
They've played at State.
They've played at Oregon.
They've played at Florida State.
They've played at LSU.
Everyone has to play in tough environments. We got housed. It will (and should) keep us out of the playoff unless we somehow win the conference.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:19 pm to bigpapamac
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You didn't answer the question. Who among the 1-loss contenders would you put ahead of them? It's relatively early, any 1-loss teams behind them are 1-1 against teams with a "pulse" at best
If you want to talk about "good losses" then ND has a very similar resume and were one second away from beating the #2 team.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:20 pm to RB10
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If you want to talk about "good losses" then ND has a very similar resume and were one second away from beating the #2 team.
But they didn't and their wins are less impressive. Way to throw out a media darling instead of using any on field results to back you up.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:21 pm to Flame Salamander
quote:All the (former) BCS computers have us ranked higher than any human poll. Anderson ranks us at 13, which is the lowest. All the other computers have us top 10.
Massey Poll of 114 Polls has LSU at 9. So why do some people on here think it is outrageous to think we are a top 10 team? The pollsters from across the country clearly think so.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:22 pm to bigpapamac
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So who is ESPN schilling for?
Themselves.
They have ginned up a desire for a system that will, ultimately, benefit them more so than the current one. They've gone about it pretending it's all about getting a better product...does anyone think their motives are that altruistic?
This is going to generate a shite ton of revenue. That is without question.
Will it makes the game better? I seriously doubt it based on what little we know about the system.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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You saying the MSU game wasn't lopsided? I'm sure you watched the game.
So, if that pass at the end is caught, and LSU won, then because the rest of the game was "lop sided", does MSU still get the W?
Just food for thought.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:23 pm to RB10
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If you want to talk about "good losses" then ND has a very similar resume and were one second away from beating the #2 team.
Who has ND beaten? Nobody in the top 25. Not sure that's "very similar" to Ole Miss who's beaten the #6 team.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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barely even showed a pulse
Ok, now explain Mississippi barely showing a pulse in their loss to us being number four?
If they are four, how is a team that dominated them in every way but the final score 19?
A bunch of monkey's could almost have done as well.
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