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re: Coaches "Blown Out" in National Championship
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:39 pm to Ye_Olde_Tiger
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:39 pm to Ye_Olde_Tiger
I don't think people take enough stock in the rematch angle. Bama has all of the momentum.
Imagine working your arse off for 10 months and demolishing everyone on your schedule and fighting tooth and nail to win the "game of the century". Then for it all to be made worthless? That you didn't win by enough? That you have to beat them twice for it to validate your season?
bullshite.
Call me butthurt, making excuses, whatever. I'll stand by my position LSU should have never had to play Alabama again.
Imagine working your arse off for 10 months and demolishing everyone on your schedule and fighting tooth and nail to win the "game of the century". Then for it all to be made worthless? That you didn't win by enough? That you have to beat them twice for it to validate your season?
bullshite.
Call me butthurt, making excuses, whatever. I'll stand by my position LSU should have never had to play Alabama again.
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:45 pm to Golfer
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Imagine working your arse off for 10 months and demolishing everyone on your schedule and fighting tooth and nail to win the "game of the century". Then for it all to be made worthless? That you didn't win by enough? That you have to beat them twice for it to validate your season?
bullshite.
Call me butthurt, making excuses, whatever. I'll stand by my position LSU should have never had to play Alabama again.
Butthurt or not, it's fricking true.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:50 pm to Golfer
I'll add this: This was the season where we started getting these reports about the special prep the LSU D was running in getting ready for Oregon.
Everyone watched Oregon barely lose to Cam Newton in the championship game and knew we had to face that speed and no-huddle team coming into the first game of the season. Tensions were raised.
Well...the coaches handled it. We learned about their 'Tempo' drill with one D running against 2 offensive teams to wear down the D unit and prep them for the Oregon onslaught.
I still believe that prep is what carried us through that season. But my question is how can the defensive side of the ball be so openly creative while the offensive side is just clearly lacking in execution of even the most basic routes and fundamentals of handling pressure.
Anyway...now I'm really done.
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Everyone watched Oregon barely lose to Cam Newton in the championship game and knew we had to face that speed and no-huddle team coming into the first game of the season. Tensions were raised.
Well...the coaches handled it. We learned about their 'Tempo' drill with one D running against 2 offensive teams to wear down the D unit and prep them for the Oregon onslaught.
I still believe that prep is what carried us through that season. But my question is how can the defensive side of the ball be so openly creative while the offensive side is just clearly lacking in execution of even the most basic routes and fundamentals of handling pressure.
Anyway...now I'm really done.
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:58 pm to tigerpawl
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Saw my first LSU game in 1959 - never embarrassed to be an LSU fan - until then...
I don't guess you made the 1960 Sugar Bowl in Tulane stadium...same score to a team we had beaten during the regular season!
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:25 am to lsufishnhunt
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Efficient does not work when your line can’t block. Bama’s D was suffocating that night. Bama would have killed Lee.
We will never know. There were also tons of people that swore JJ would never do well against Bama in his performances against them based on his play. Yet, Jefferson had some of his better games against Bama (minus the NC). Every game is different and you never know what you're going to get out of someone on a particular night.
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And people talk about the tragedy of throwing Lee into the fire during his redshirt freshman year.
Lee handled the fire and then some. I didn't really see LSU getting anything productive out of him after that awful La Tech game he had in his sophomore year. But he proved people wrong. He was a football player - not a child. There would have been nothing tragic about him getting a shot against Bama. The tragedy was not even trying him when he was the starter for most of the season. What was there to lose? I feel pretty strongly that he would have loved a shot whether he did something or failed miserably.
People try to make sense of the coaching that night, but it just didn't make sense. Russell Shepard was our leading receiver against Bama in game 1 (he had twice as many yards as LSU's 2nd leading receiver and his 34-yard reception led to our first score). He didn't play a snap in the championship game. He also averaged 7 yards per carry over his career against Bama. Good luck making sense out of that one too. I like Les, but the offensive planning in that one was offensive.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:27 am to boxcar willie
I was referring to Jarrett Lee but honestly anybody else deserved a shot in the game just to see if it made a difference.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:53 am to PurpleandGoldmember
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a lot of peeps on here said they were not the same fans that they were before LSU lost to Bama in the National Championship
That's pathetic if true
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:37 am to Big EZ Tiger
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People try to make sense of the coaching that night, but it just didn't make sense. Russell Shepard was our leading receiver against Bama in game 1 (he had twice as many yards as LSU's 2nd leading receiver and his 34-yard reception led to our first score). He didn't play a snap in the championship game. He also averaged 7 yards per carry over his career against Bama. Good luck making sense out of that one too. I like Les, but the offensive planning in that one was offensive.
Yep.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:27 am to Golfer
Did any of the experts ever calculate who would've been in the BCSCG had we lost to UGA in the SECCG?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:41 am to PurpleandGoldmember
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PurpleandGoldmember
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:41 am to PurpleandGoldmember
Lord 
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:42 am to PeaRidgeWatash
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Did any of the experts ever calculate who would've been in the BCSCG had we lost to UGA in the SECCG?
Yes.
It was discussed on this board.
ESPN held a segment on gameday during the SECCG, with Nick Saban at the table, discussing the fact that "if LSU loses to UGA today, do they have the right to rematch Alabama in the BCSNCG".
It was already concluded, before the conference championship games kicked off, that Bama was getting a mulligan on their season. Someone linked the segment on this site. I remember watching it at the time, laughing to myself saying "this is why I quit watching ESPN, outside of game coverage, in 2003". Really, who actually thought ESPN would have the leverage to prevent a conference champion from the Big 12, that played a tougher schedule, from being in the title game? Well, they did. (Also, I still say had Oklahoma State been Texas or OU, they are a shoe-in for the BCSNCG).
The conclusions were Bama vs Oklahoma State if OSU beat OU and LSU lost.
I believe Oregon was next in line to play Bama if LSU lost to UGA.
Either way, Bama was pretty much already in the game according to ESPN no matter what, since they had nothing to lose that weekend by not playing. They were only going to gain...
And this is why I save my money every fall. I still enjoy the sport, but it's not entertaining enough to me to pay 3K for tickets along with spending an entire day away from two small kids to go to a game that means nothing in the CFB beauty pageant.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:45 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:46 am to Golfer
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Golfer
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:01 am to Mack
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10 win Miles! Hoorayyyy! Print the shirts! He's elite!
LOL
They can keep the 10 win seasons and miles can go 7-6 two out of every three seasons as long as he wins the sec that 3rd year.
Getting blownout on 1-9 was not the issue. The issue was Miles quitting on the team. No lee? no two minute, no huddle offense with JJ? why not?
These questions have never been answered.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:06 am to SouthOfSouth
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For the most part, people just take football less serious. I'd say I am in that boat, though the difference isn't very significant I'd say I have changed my outlook on football after that game. It isn't necessarily bad.
I tend to agree with this. This game (and in retrospect, the events leading up to it [Bama mulligan]), in terms of my sports-watching, really forced me to grow up. I refuse to allow negative outcomes of a game to sway my emotions and preclude me from having a good time and enjoying myself for the rest of the day or night (or week, month, year, etc.) and I find that I still get great, great (maybe even better) thrills from big wins. It's all about compartmentalizing and deciding if it's really worth pouting and moping for days, weeks or months due to an outcome of a game that I have, quite literally, zero influence or control over.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 7:08 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:07 am to Golfer
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I'll stand by my position LSU should have never had to play Alabama again.
I will agree with that...but it still is no excuse for miles not having the team prepared offensively....for not playing Lee....and for not going 2 minute no huddle with JJ and then punting in the 4th quarter down like we were . That was straight up giving in.
Let's say we did all of the above then he could at least say hey, we tried and went down guns a blazing. But he can't say that now can he? That's what gets most people. What would it take for miles to redeem that pooing the bed in the NC? Some may want him to beat bama in another NC game. For some that may be the only way to get back in their good graces. I doubt that ever happens but I will bet that is how some feel. just saying.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:14 am to PurpleandGoldmember
It has a lot to do with the disgust that we went 11-0 and already had beaten the eventual NC ,a team that didnt even win its division.Also an extra game aganist GA., make that 12-0. Did the loss to Ole Miss the second time around in the bowl game diminish Cannons run,seems not to have. Its happened before to LSU. It happened a few years back to Fla . St., Florida winning rematch. And with the 4 team playoff its certain to happen several times in the future. In a rematch the team that lost the first game has the advantage,its a mental thing,the winner of the first game has the attitude,what do I have to do? Thats why I hate rematches. Game of the century my arse,game that meant nothing is more like it.Its a problem that will get worse.Still OSU played a tougher schedule ,they deserved the right to play in the BCSCG, I agree with the earlier response on that, the media decided Bama would play ,everybody else be damned, game should have an asterisk, MULLIGUMPS! 
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 7:23 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:19 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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ESPN held a segment on gameday during the SECCG, with Nick Saban at the table, discussing the fact that "if LSU loses to UGA today, do they have the right to rematch Alabama in the BCSNCG".
It was already concluded, before the conference championship games kicked off, that Bama was getting a mulligan on their season. Someone linked the segment on this site. I remember watching it at the time, laughing to myself saying "this is why I quit watching ESPN, outside of game coverage, in 2003". Really, who actually thought ESPN would have the leverage to prevent a conference champion from the Big 12, that played a tougher schedule, from being in the title game? Well, they did. (Also, I still say had Oklahoma State been Texas or OU, they are a shoe-in for the BCSNCG).
The conclusions were Bama vs Oklahoma State if OSU beat OU and LSU lost.
I believe Oregon was next in line to play Bama if LSU lost to UGA.
Not true. Pretty much every analyst said that if LSU lost to UGA, they would still be in the BCS championship. They had gained that much clout.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:19 am to timm6971463
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this was a semi positive post designed to bring out the negative tigers, the op's friends when they get together they have a good time running off recruits !
huh?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:25 am to Golfer
quote:This!
It has nothing to do with the 21 point loss. We actually were within 1 or 2 possessions for most of the game.
It has to do with how incredible that season was and the manner in which a team with perceived national bias was allowed back into the picture. In effect, the system "told" LSU that their performance for the last 13 games was for naught and you'd have to prove yourself again. LSU couldn't "win". And for me, the lore and interest in the sport as a whole went down.
I still love LSU and have kept my streak alive but there became clarity that evening.
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