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re: Column: The case for Jarrett Lee
Posted on 10/18/09 at 3:46 pm to TIsuGGER
Posted on 10/18/09 at 3:46 pm to TIsuGGER
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I have always supported Lee, but he needs to find a home where he can achieve. He shouldn't hang around to bail Miles out. Miles needs to go down with this ship.
I support the team first and foremost. If kids want to be part of the team, great. If not, they have the choice to go.
If JL shares your thoughts and can't stick it out while being backup as a sophomore, then that's his choice. Let him go if he wants to.
Tons of kids play backup and wait their turns. I'm pretty sure Mauck and Flynn didn't fly the coop because they were backups. Kelvin Sheppard waited his turn. There are kids that put in their entire 4 or 5 years and never get to start and don't play much. But they are Tigers at heart. Those are the kids I support.
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Posted on 10/18/09 at 3:51 pm to Methuselah
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I'm pretty sure Mauck and Flynn
I'm pretty sure Mauck and Flynn weren't downright lied to.
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Jarrett will get a chance to win a game or two for us
You will see both Jefferson and Lee
Posted on 10/18/09 at 3:56 pm to TIsuGGER
Well, since you are so emphatic, I can only assume you are in close contact with JL and you know for a fact that he feels lied to.
If that's the case, and you are also relying on that contact to say he should go and he wants to go, then tell him it's a free country. We would love him to stay but not against his will.
A person should not stay where they feel betrayed. So long JL, it was good to have you as a Tiger for awhile. We'll have to make do without you.
If that's the case, and you are also relying on that contact to say he should go and he wants to go, then tell him it's a free country. We would love him to stay but not against his will.
A person should not stay where they feel betrayed. So long JL, it was good to have you as a Tiger for awhile. We'll have to make do without you.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:05 pm to Methuselah
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We'll have to make do without you.
Good Lord
Ppl on here, I swear, are mentally retarded. We rank 109th in the nation and you call that making do.
We are an embarassment offensively. We rank behind TCU and IOWA in the BCS for crying out loud! Two teams above us lose, and we move down! No team fears or repsects our offense. Most of the teams we've beat won't even make a bowl. Are you really that completely dense? Not even homers like Dandy Don think we are "making do." He's given up and looking forward to next yr.
This post was edited on 10/18/09 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:18 pm to RobbBobb
Okay. Have it your way buddy. Let's change it to "we'll have to suck it up and suffer immeasurably without you".
It doesn't make a difference. It's JL's free choice. We've been told by his own fans that he was lied to and that he should leave immediately unless he's played.
We've been told by JL's own fans that we're a sinking ship. Certainly those with his best interests in mind wouldn't give him bad advice. They've advised him to abandon the sinking ship.
He's been advised by his own fans that he should leave us wallowing in the horrible depths that only he could rescue us from if not for our lieing coaches who are the only ones who can't see he is our only hope.
This program is obviously holding him back so wrongfully and nefariously. So, as much as we hate to see him go, we don't have a choice in the matter. It's obviously in his best interest to go.
Making do? Bad choice of words indeed. Only JL could help us acheive that. Without a willingness on the coaches to see what JL's fans can see so clearly we will certainly sink like a stone. His fans are right to advise him to depart as soon as possible. Those of us who are just fans of the program are doomed to be left here without his saving grace.
It doesn't make a difference. It's JL's free choice. We've been told by his own fans that he was lied to and that he should leave immediately unless he's played.
We've been told by JL's own fans that we're a sinking ship. Certainly those with his best interests in mind wouldn't give him bad advice. They've advised him to abandon the sinking ship.
He's been advised by his own fans that he should leave us wallowing in the horrible depths that only he could rescue us from if not for our lieing coaches who are the only ones who can't see he is our only hope.
This program is obviously holding him back so wrongfully and nefariously. So, as much as we hate to see him go, we don't have a choice in the matter. It's obviously in his best interest to go.
Making do? Bad choice of words indeed. Only JL could help us acheive that. Without a willingness on the coaches to see what JL's fans can see so clearly we will certainly sink like a stone. His fans are right to advise him to depart as soon as possible. Those of us who are just fans of the program are doomed to be left here without his saving grace.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:22 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Awesome!
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:28 pm to kjanchild
When would you like to proceed with this Jarret Lee experiment? Against Auburn while we are still in the race for the SEC west title? What did you see that the coaching staff and a majority of the fans dont see that leads you to believe that JL is suddenly the answer to our offensive woes. What makes you think he has improved so dramatically? It makes no sense.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:37 pm to cepheid
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When would you like to proceed with this Jarret Lee experiment? Against Auburn while we are still in the race for the SEC west title? What did you see that the coaching staff and a majority of the fans dont see that leads you to believe that JL is suddenly the answer to our offensive woes. What makes you think he has improved so dramatically? It makes no sense.
What makes you believe that a majority of fans don't see that JJ isn't "the answer"? I think JLee showed a lot of moxie last year (and poor judgment in some instances), but then, JJ has shown no heart and poor leadership qualities. Why not figure out the lesser of two evils by giving both a chance. JJ has now has 8 games to prove himself. He is not a world beater by any stretch of the imagination.
If you need another example of Miles just playing things too close to his vest, witness the disappearance of one Russell Sheperd and Rueben Randle. Do you need more to question Mile's current state of wisdom in these matters?
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:50 pm to Proejo
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JJ has shown no heart and poor leadership qualities.
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JLee showed a lot of moxie
WTF
Posted on 10/18/09 at 4:50 pm to Proejo
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the disappearance of one Russell Sheperd and Rueben Randle
add JLee and KW to the mix, and even homers have got to ask what is going on in this program, on the offensive side of the board?
I mean, I did question ppl who said, it couldnt get worse last yr. But 109th? Can it really get any worse? Seriously?
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:09 pm to RobbBobb
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But 109th? Can it really get any worse? Seriously?
at least we rank above Vandy in Total Offense in the SEC.
oh, and there are 15 teams that have scored fewer TD's.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:11 pm to Carl Dubois
Definitely time for Lee. The offense has absolutely nothing to lose at this point.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:14 pm to Proejo
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at least we rank above Vandy in Total Offense in the SEC.
oh, and there are 15 teams that have scored fewer TD's.
+1 THIS is why it could be worse. Also we could have lost more than 1 game.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:19 pm to RobbBobb
I ask this because I really don't know:
Is overall offensive standing the "gold standard" criteria that is used when comparing QB's? I see it used a lot in this situation but I don't seem to see it that much elsewhere when QB's are discussed in college and the NFL.
Is overall offensive standing the "gold standard" criteria that is used when comparing QB's? I see it used a lot in this situation but I don't seem to see it that much elsewhere when QB's are discussed in college and the NFL.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:20 pm to cepheid
BTW - last year's offense, while not a world beater itself, finished ranked 34th, about 65 slots better than the current offense.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:33 pm to Proejo
That's why I was asking. Cause Bama's QB had like 4 turnovers this week and didn't complete a whole lot of passes. But he had one RB who went over 200 yards so I would guess their ranking for the week wasn't anywhere near as bad as 109.
Does that mean, that guy was a better QB than the QB's for all those teams who gained less than 200 yds?
Does that mean, that guy was a better QB than the QB's for all those teams who gained less than 200 yds?
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:44 pm to Methuselah
quote:IMO, college QBs need to be measured on first how effective they are for the team in terms of offensive productivity, scoring, and leadership factors; only then on their stats.
Is overall offensive standing the "gold standard" criteria that is used when comparing QB's?
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:49 pm to Carl Dubois
Great column, give Lee a chance. The offense needs a spark, apparantly RS not going to be given a chance, so why not a QB who has experience. Also, as the column says, a QB with alot of character.
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:52 pm to Chesimo
Put in JL so what if he throws a pic 6. Our defense could deal with it i think.
Lets do some math...
30ppg i believe last year...
opp scoring this year i think is under 20..
pic 6..
30-20 or 27 we win?
Lets do some math...
30ppg i believe last year...
opp scoring this year i think is under 20..
pic 6..
30-20 or 27 we win?
This post was edited on 10/18/09 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/09 at 5:57 pm to Carl Dubois
I think you forgot to talk about JL. I DON'T need examples please state your case.
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