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re: Comparing Les to other great coaches.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:44 pm to Choctaw
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:44 pm to Choctaw
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Actually...the performance of last years team was better than the performance of the '08 team....so thats not a slide.
Just traded a crappy defense for a crappy offense. performance was not better, the record was, and very slightly. Could have been much worse.
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:49 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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Do not discredit Saban. He did something the last two years that Miles will never do in his entire coaching career. Miles couldn't even go undefeated even with the teams of 2006 or 2007. STFU with your stupid bullshite about SEC being down the last 2 years. We are 8-8 the last two years in the SEC.
You really hit a nerve with the Sabanistas & Bama Faithful, inebr8ted
This one "Hurricane Miles", sqaukin' like you just bumped him out of his nest.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:52 pm to Choctaw
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"Our Saban, who art in bama, hallowed be thy name...."
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:53 pm to Choctaw
I knew you would post something about that. Now can you post something without a Saban recruit?
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:59 pm to The312
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Right now his "The Mad Hatter on the Hot Seat" & "Les Miles: One Goofy Bastard" stories are getting more Publicity than Bama's Championship, and his agent (Not Jimmy Sexton), is likely seeing dollar signs.
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1) just fricking with us
2) actually retarded
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Right now his "The Mad Hatter on the Hot Seat" & "Les Miles: One Goofy Bastard" stories are getting more Publicity than Bama's Championship, and his agent (Not Jimmy Sexton), is likely seeing dollar signs.
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quote:I know. It's shite like this that makes me wonder sometimes if the Miles defenders are:
Maybe I am misinterpreting, but are you saying that being mocked by the national media is actually improving Miles' earning potential?
1) just fricking with us
2) actually retarded
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:01 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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Now can you post something without a Saban recruit?
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:02 pm to LJBurton
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You guys see 51-15 and say, "thank God for Les Miles."
I see "51-15" and say its never been done before at LSU. I don't look for ways to belittle it or seek to place it in some "proper context" or use smoke and mirrors to make it disappear, but if that's what you want to do, knock yourself out.
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It does when you have the talent to win 10 or more
Most independent preseason polls had LSU 4th in the SEC and 3rd in the west. Seems to me that the talent we were judged to have by those outside Louisiana judges did as well or better than expected.
You are welcome to your opinion, but I disagree when you label 9-3, 3rd in the SEC, and national ranked as a mediocre achievement.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:08 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Then that would mean that at least a fair majority of SEC schools would trade their coach for CLM, which we know is not the case. Hell they want us to keep Miles forever.
That's little more than conjecture on your part given you have no earthy way of knowing who other SEC leaderships would trade for whom.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:09 pm to inebr8ted tiger
All of the other coaches on the list took over historically great, but struggling programs, and returned them to greatness - they built their currently elite teams. Miles inherited an elite program built by the previous coach, and at best has maintained it, at worse has let it slip. That indicates that Miles is not in the same class as these other coaches.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:11 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Most independent preseason polls had LSU 4th in the SEC and 3rd in the west. Seems to me that the talent we were judged to have by those outside Louisiana judges did as well or better than expected.
Didn't LSU lose to Florida, Ole Miss and Bama? Finishing third in the SEC is kind of hollow when THREE SEC teams beat you during the season. Including two divisional rivals.
LSU finished the season exactly where I predicted they would, losing to the three I thought they would. Never thought LSU would lose to PSU though. This years team sets up about the same.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:15 pm to Choctaw
quote:Even if you are correct (a stretch; just b/c "QB and overall defense were much better than in '08" doesn't mean the team performed at a very high level) the fact that you can't name at least half of the games is putrid. We're talking about performance (effort, preparation, discipline, etc), things that you can control, and this team is failing in that regard almost every game.
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The performance at QB and overall defense were much better than in '08. With better o-line play this year we will be a much improved team.
Performing at a very high level =/= winning the game, necessarily. And these teams of the past 2 seasons have performed like crap the vast majority of the time. That is the number one problem.
Better OL play is a bandaid on a team that can't find its arse with both hands. And just b/c the OL is bigger, doesn't mean they will be any better. But that's the future & you're certainly allowed to be optimistic.
at this time, I'm talking about the past 2 seasons, where LSU has been overall an unprepared, undisciplined, weak, out-coached team in almost every game. Any way you look at it, you can't deny that.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:20 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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at this time, I'm talking about the past 2 seasons, where LSU has been overall an unprepared, undisciplined, weak, out-coached team in almost every game. Any way you look at it, you can't deny
that.
Despite any record, win or moment in the past two seasons, you cannot deny what you just posted. Hopefully this year will be different, somehow. Watching a weak, unprepared football team is disheartening.
Blaming the offensive line is shite. Who's fault is that? QB play? Who's fault is that? Hopefully the coaching staff has adopted a new philosophy. Sounds like they have, but we will see.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:24 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Better OL play is a bandaid on a team that can't find its arse with both hands.
overreact much? and considering the OL is arguably the most important area on the field, i would hardly consider getting better play out of them a "bandaid".
Better o-line play equals better run game, qb play, and overall offense.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Blaming the offensive line is shite. Who's fault is that?
I'm curious, who was responsible for recruitng the 2005 LSU signing class?
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:28 pm to MontanaTiger
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Miles inherited an elite program built by the previous coach, and at best has maintained it, at worse has let it slip
Could you tell me more about this Ferrari/Rolls Royce/ or whatever, that Miles inheried, specifically the 5 positions on the Offensive Line?
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:33 pm to Sammich
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Right now his "The Mad Hatter on the Hot Seat" & "Les Miles: One Goofy Bastard" stories are getting more Publicity than Bama's Championship, and his agent (Not Jimmy Sexton), is likely seeing dollar signs
Thx for the sig quote
I hope, for your sake, that you read your statement tomorrow and realize how ridiculous this is.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:35 pm to Chimlim
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Some people don't understand that LSU has the potential to play at this high level every week and that Les Miles is not getting the most out of this team.
I will agree with this. I do think Miles is not given enough credit for the 2007 team. Some recruits were his, and the players had spent several years under his leadership.
Its what has happened since that is puzzling. LSU football now, is far from LSU football then. Intensity, discipline, execution are all miles apart. I totally agree that LSU is most likely the most under performing team I have seen the last two seasons.
But you gotta give Miles some props for '07
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:37 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Thx for the sig quote
I hope, for your sake, that you read your statement tomorrow and realize how ridiculous this is.
Anytime! Like I said let's bring this tread back in a year or two.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:41 pm to Choctaw
quote:1) did you see the OL in the Spring Game that couldn't keep the DL out of JJ's face? (even though they couldn't hit him, he was rattled)
overreact much? and considering the OL is arguably the most important area on the field, i would hardly consider getting better play out of them a "bandaid".
Better o-line play equals better run game, qb play, and overall offense.
2) Even if the OL is better, they need to do a complete 180 to have a serious impact. And with all of the same personnel....no big time transfers or elite recruits coming in.
3) How is improved OL going to help the DL stop the run or help the defense make a key stop (which they couldn't last year) or help the coach learn when the clock starts/stops?
These are just some of the issues.
But again, it's your right to be optimistic. What I'm really referring to is the performance of the team over the past 2 seasons & the fact that it's totally unacceptable to have terrible performance in almost every game. That performance was much more prevalent in the Spring Game than the performance the team showed against AU last year. So that gives me no reason to think it will change in this coming season.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 2:42 pm to Sammich
quote:Sure. Whatever.
Anytime! Like I said let's bring this tread back in a year or two.
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