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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
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You clearly cannot comprehend what I am saying. Our 1 really good game is statistically covering up our 3 not so good games. That's the point I was making.


The GSU game is skewing everything for the defense right now. Just like the other idiot who made a thread about plays per game without taking into account that GSU's 50 plays run is extremely low in any season and is skewing his 4 game sample.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:44 pm to
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The GSU game is skewing everything for the defense right now.

Don't let LNCHBOX see this
Posted by jb21lsu
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:44 pm to
Really cool breakdown. Thanks for the info. Hopefully we can change some of those negative trends.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:45 pm to
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???? Not sure what you are talking about. We have issues that are beyond missed tackles.




Missed tackle accounted for almost 150 yards in the last game. How different does the game look if Vandy doesn't have all those additional yards?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Don't let LNCHBOX see this




If only the games that didn't make your argument didn't count, life would be so grand.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Don't let LNCHBOX see this


I mean, you can't ignore the entire game. You just make sure and understand the context of the impact that outlier has on the numbers.

Just like people who complain about LSU's PPG last season without taking into account the 7 OT game.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:47 pm to
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Missed tackle accounted for almost 150 yards in the last game. How different does the game look if Vandy doesn't have all those additional yards?


I agree with you on this. There were a few missed assignments vs. Vandy but the missed tackles were what really bit us.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:47 pm to
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I mean, you can't ignore the entire game. You just make sure and understand the context of the impact that outlier has on the numbers.



Do we also get to count UT as an outlier? Or do outliers only go in one direction?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:48 pm to
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If only the games that didn't make your argument didn't count, life would be so grand.

I only excluded 1 game man. You brought Vandy into it, trying to hurt my argument. When you found out it helped my argument and you were, in fact, wrong, you backtracked to this "all games count" weird shtick.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Do we also get to count UT as an outlier? Or do outliers only go in one direction?


Sure. Though I'd argue the 85 plays run in that game will be closer to the mean than the 50 GSU ran.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:49 pm to
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???? Not sure what you are talking about. We have issues that are beyond missed tackles.



Missed tackle accounted for almost 150 yards in the last game. How different does the game look if Vandy doesn't have all those additional yards?



That is great that you can regurgitate those facts that CEO stated. Do you not see missed assignments that lead to those missed tackles? I never said missed tackles wasn't an issue, it is. However, piss poor fundamentals all around and mental breakdowns are what is causing our issues. If our guys catch 1/3 of the pass deflections and that turns into turnovers, how different are he stats?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5024 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Do we also get to count UT as an outlier? Or do outliers only go in one direction?


Is the rest of our schedule closer to UT in strength or Georgia Southern?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:50 pm to
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I only excluded 1 game man


You excluded 25% of the games. You can't do that and expect anyone to take you seriously.
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You brought Vandy into it, trying to hurt my argument.


Nope. Just asking why not take away another game?
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ou backtracked to this "all games count" weird shtick.


All games count was my original point, so how exactly did I backtrack?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Is the rest of our schedule closer to UT in strength or Georgia Southern?


Irrelevant since all games count.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5024 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Nope. Just asking why not take away another game?

That isn't what you were doing and you know it lol. When it backfired you backtracked. You thought taking out the Vandy game would bring the numbers down but it didn't.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88772 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
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That is great that you can regurgitate those facts that CEO stated. Do you not see missed assignments that lead to those missed tackles? I never said missed tackles wasn't an issue, it is. However, piss poor fundamentals all around and mental breakdowns are what is causing our issues. If our guys catch 1/3 of the pass deflections and that turns into turnovers, how different are he stats?


Counting on guys to not miss tackles is much more realistic than expecting a huge jump in turnovers, but you're one of the ones that;'s going to melt about the defense regardless.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
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That isn't what you were doing and you know it lol.


It absolutely was.
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When it backfired you backtracked. You thought taking out the Vandy game would bring the numbers down but it didn't.



Let's revisit the post.
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Remove the Ga So game and we are giving up 394 YPG on 5.33 yards per play. That includes NW St. Texas got 48 yards/possession. We have two cupcakes skewing our stats and the numbers still don't look good. So
remove games to make a point?


Do you not agree that very clearly is me saying all games count?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5024 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Can We remove the Vandy game since we beat the absolute frick out of them and the yards and points they got were all irrelevant

If we're going to revisit the post, let's revisit the entire post.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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88772 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:55 pm to
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If we're going to revisit the post, let's revisit the entire post.


Interesting way of not answering the question. I will again ask how I can backtrack to something that was my original point.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5024 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Interesting way of not answering the question.

The answer is right in front of your eyes. You asked me to remove the Vandy game because they put up a bunch of irrelevant yards and points. I did so and it only hurt your argument so you went back to "all games count"

i.e. backtracking
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