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Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:52 am to Drizzt
quote:Miles has 2 of the top 5 LSU seasons in pass ypg, completions and TD passes.
The argument that we put receivers in the NFL actually makes Miles look worse. How did he squander all that talent with an offense that couldn't make a downfield pass look easy on its best day.
You and tubacco are just ignorant of facts.
If you were to check the Media Guide team records, you'd see Miles owns practically every offensive category and realize how retarded your posts really look.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:55 am to Drizzt
quote:
The argument that we put receivers in the NFL actually makes Miles look worse.
only if you're stupid.
quote:
How did he squander all that talent with an offense that couldn't make a downfield pass look easy on its best day.
3 of the top 5 passing offenses in lsu history are under miles.
quote:
eep it up RickD. You are making my argument that Miles was inept for me. All too easy...
yeah if you're a retard.
lsu produced so many NFL wrs because they he shot coaching. I swear some of you don't understand football at an elementary level.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:58 am to Mayhawman
quote:
Miles has 2 of the top 5 LSU seasons in pass ypg, completions and TD passes.
You and tubacco are just ignorant of facts.
If you were to check the Media Guide team records, you'd see Miles owns practically every offensive category and realize how retarded your posts really look.
you know facts don't matter to the posters that shite on miles because if they did they wouldn't have any ammunition. FACTS paint miles and lsu from 2005-2015 in a positive light. only dumbass would argue against facts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
I doubt they've ever opened media guide records out of fear of 11 years worth of invalidation.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
3 of the top 5 passing offenses in lsu history are under miles.
I'm not a Miles basher for the most part but to be fair, the passing game has opened up dramatically in college since the mid 90's or so.
For example, Jordan Jefferson's 2009 stats are on par with what Tommy Hodson put up his first 3 years at LSU. Are we saying Jordan Jefferson was as good a QB as Tommy Hodson? I hope not.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Things haven't changed that much and some is just folks perception.
I'm not a Miles basher for the most part but to be fair, the passing game has opened up dramatically in college since the mid 90's or so.
LSU Top 15 RAT has some fairly ancient guys repping.
Those in bold didn't pass my 100att min.
22 Rohan Davey 1998 2001 286 478 59.8 4415 9.2 9.0 29 15 151.2 66 77 1.2 0
23 Zach Mettenberger* 2011 2013 407 659 61.8 5783 8.8 8.8 35 15 148.4 83 -313 -3.8 0
24 JaMarcus Russell* 2004 2006 493 797 61.9 6625 8.3 8.4 52 21 147.9 139 79 0.6 4
25 Danny Etling* 2015 2017 325 544 59.7 4586 8.4 8.8 27 7 144.4 113 174 1.5 3
26 Herb Tyler 1995 1998 434 716 60.6 5876 8.2 7.8 40 24 141.3 291 778 2.7 23
27 Mike Miley* 1972 1973 62 113 54.9 1018 9.0 6.6 9 10 139.1 140 231 1.7 4
28 Brady Dalfrey* 2008 2008 1 2 50.0 21 10.5 10.5 0 0 138.2
29 Tommy Hodson 1986 1989 674 1163 58.0 9115 7.8 7.4 69 41 136.3 144 -177 -1.2 2
30 Matt Mauck* 2001 2003 310 529 58.6 3831 7.2 7.1 37 18 135.7 149 345 2.3 5
31 Brandon Harris* 2014 2016 187 347 53.9 2756 7.9 7.8 20 10 133.9 97 370 3.8 7
32 Mickey Guidry 1985 1988 85 137 62.0 1095 8.0 7.1 5 5 133.9 21 31 1.5 1
33 Dwight Robinson 1962 1962 1 1 100.0 4 4.0 4.0 0 0 133.6 4 30 7.5
34 Alan Risher 1980 1982 381 615 62.0 4585 7.5 6.7 31 24 133.4 377 542 1.4 13
35 Butch Duhe 1969 1969 8 22 36.4 175 8.0 9.8 2 0 133.2 35 62 1.8 2
36 Matt Flynn* 2004 2007 245 437 56.1 3096 7.1 7.2 31 13 133.0 128 340 2.7 5
37 Bert Jones* 1970 1972 233 446 52.2 3390 7.6 7.1 28 17 129.2 231 -88 -0.4 9
38 Jordan Jefferson* 2008 2011 397 678 58.6 4733 7.0 6.7 34 20 127.8 359 1018 2.8 12
39 Marcus Randall* 2001 2004 216 385 56.1 2854 7.4 6.9 18 12 127.6 162 617 3.8 5
The top 3 in attempts were Hodson, Wickersham, and Howard, all pre 1995, so not sure what's meant by "opened up".
I went to a lot of those games and they were comparable to this century's attempts or even more.
At any rate, in an apples to apples fair metric due to season length, in top pass ypg it's 2 for Saban, 2 for Miles and 1989 in top 5 (no specific order).
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
For example, Jordan Jefferson's 2009 stats are on par with what Tommy Hodson put up his first 3 years at LSU. Are we saying Jordan Jefferson was as good a QB as Tommy Hodson? I hope not.
that wasn't a bad season in 2009. but no I'm not saying JJ was a better qb than TH. stats alone don't make you a better player. we all know JJ had massive talent around him compared to TH.
while our passing game was only great for a couple years under Miles it wasn't this massive shite show every year like some people on here make it out to be. a lot of times our passing totals were bad because of the lack of passing plays called rather than the inability to pass.
take 2013 for example:
We were 11th in the country in yards per play but because we never ran a HUNH and were a ball controlled offense we were 105th in plays ran.
clearly our totals were hurt by lack of plays ran and not the actual success of the offense when the ball was snapped.
people use totals on here to shite on our offenses when just using totals is flawed way to gauge success of an offense.
offense a:
400 yards from 50 plays
offense b:
395 yards from 35 plays
looking at totals,offense A is ranked higher but in reality offense b was far more successful when the ball was snapped.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:52 pm to schwartzy
Ceauxch Eeaux kneaux da way to geaux wit da quotaback. He kneaux!
Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:25 pm to Mayhawman
Are you actually making the argument that Miles had an amazing passing attack because he lucked into Mettenberg for 2 seasons? God you people are dumb and pathetic. Les Miles was literally a national joke for his offense.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:39 pm to Drizzt
quote:Mett had a choice of colleges and you don't know what you're talking about.
Are you actually making the argument that Miles had an amazing passing attack because he lucked into Mettenberg for 2 seasons?
quote:Miles has the 4 best scoring offenses in LSU history.
God you people are dumb and pathetic. Les Miles was literally a national joke for his offense.
You can look this stuff up, or maybe you're too dumb and pathetic.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:40 pm to Mayhawman
And yet a replacement interim coach (Orgeron) and his temp OC (Ensminger) replaced Miles and his so called top powerful offenses that you are talking about and went on to set records on offensive production for the rest of the season. Lol But I hope you're not including that season as one of Miles' 4 best scoring offenses ever at LSU. Lmao And you have the nerve to call people dumb and pathetic! Lol
It's dumb as hell to try and prop Les Miles up as some kind of offensive juggernaut when you're comparing his offensive production to the likes of the Charlie Mac era and a short Nick Saban era that was mostly about building LSU into the powerhouse program that it became under him. Miles comes in behind that and reaps the rewards of what Saban started, continuing to get the kind of athletes that Saban starting bringing in and in the process creating those offensive records you are talking about.
It's dumb as hell to try and prop Les Miles up as some kind of offensive juggernaut when you're comparing his offensive production to the likes of the Charlie Mac era and a short Nick Saban era that was mostly about building LSU into the powerhouse program that it became under him. Miles comes in behind that and reaps the rewards of what Saban started, continuing to get the kind of athletes that Saban starting bringing in and in the process creating those offensive records you are talking about.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:00 pm to tubucoco
quote:#2 YPP (behind #1 2013) and tied with 5 others(2012) for fewest INTs (behind #2 2011).
And yet a replacement interim coach (Orgeron) and his temp OC (Ensminger) replaced Miles and his so called top powerful offenses that you are talking about and went on to set records on offensive production for the rest of the season.
Not too impressive vs Miles, if you bothered to look it up.
quote:Dude, the record book speaks for itself and I just correct your misinformation.
It's dumb as hell to try and prop Les Miles up as some kind of offensive juggernaut
I wouldn't post about it if you weren't so wrong.
quote:Repaired
Miles comes in behind that and makes arse of what Saban started
Miles was fired with more wins in his last 5 seasons than Saban had during the same time.
It's just facts and don't be upset.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:40 pm to Mayhawman
Miles scored a lot running the ball against Nowhere State then would get shut out against Bama or any decent team who put 9 guys in the box. You sir have gone full retard. I salute you.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:54 pm to Drizzt
It's useless and a waste of ones time to argue with an asshat like that. 
shite, Cameron scored a lots of points and amassed lots of yardage in his first season there with Mettenberger and co., and Miles hated it and made him revert back to the pounding of the ball for 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense that he reveled in so much. You don't need to put out facts like this tard wants you to when my argument of what Les Miles was up against before his arrival was one "huge" fact, and this fool still did not get it. Lol If you are comparing Miles' offensive history to the Charlie McClendon era where passing the ball was a struggle in itself and just for emergency situations when in need of a first down, and then the short history of a who's who in LSU coaching list like Arnsparger, Archer, Hallman, and who else Dinardo I think, and then finally Lord Saban's arrival (which as I just explained to this doofus} and he still didn't comprehend it. Lol
That Saban's tenure was more about building LSU up into the powerhouse that it is today than about any damn offenses that you could care to compare to Les Miles' tenure at LSU. Then you should lead in all these offensive categories that he's talking about if you are comparing it to that past history. Lol LSU offensively before Miles did not have much production, so it wouldn't take much for someone to come along and set those records.
shite, Cameron scored a lots of points and amassed lots of yardage in his first season there with Mettenberger and co., and Miles hated it and made him revert back to the pounding of the ball for 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense that he reveled in so much. You don't need to put out facts like this tard wants you to when my argument of what Les Miles was up against before his arrival was one "huge" fact, and this fool still did not get it. Lol If you are comparing Miles' offensive history to the Charlie McClendon era where passing the ball was a struggle in itself and just for emergency situations when in need of a first down, and then the short history of a who's who in LSU coaching list like Arnsparger, Archer, Hallman, and who else Dinardo I think, and then finally Lord Saban's arrival (which as I just explained to this doofus} and he still didn't comprehend it. Lol That Saban's tenure was more about building LSU up into the powerhouse that it is today than about any damn offenses that you could care to compare to Les Miles' tenure at LSU. Then you should lead in all these offensive categories that he's talking about if you are comparing it to that past history. Lol LSU offensively before Miles did not have much production, so it wouldn't take much for someone to come along and set those records.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:07 pm to Drizzt
quote:
Miles scored a lot running the ball against Nowhere State then would get shut out against Bama or any decent team who put 9 guys in the box. You sir have gone full retard. I salute you.
during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams. so it's a myth we struggle against good teams.
and 99% of all cfb offenses play worse against better defenses.
look at 2011 orgeron. we held them to 335 yards(lowest all season)and 18 1st downs(lowest all season).
we held them to almost 200 yards help their average.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:12 pm to tubucoco
quote:
shite, Cameron scored a lots of points and amassed lots of yardage in his first season there with Mettenberger and co.
what? we ran the ball because we had a rb that was having a top 5 all time season for a lsu rb. he was having a season where he set the sec single yards per carry record.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:And you also had a QB who passed for over 3,000 yards that season, and 2 1,000 yard WR's, all of them amassed those totals because of how Cameron ran the offense that season from the start up to when Miles had him change it back to ground and pound so that Hill could amass his over a 1,000 yard totals too. Listen, Les Miles had never had a QB throw for that many yards, and 2 WR have those kind of yardage outputs, that was all because of Cam Cameron running the offense without interference from him that early part of the season. But I am not gonna go down the road with a Les Miles tard like you because I've been there way too many times to know better.
what?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:59 am to tubucoco
quote:Link to your theory?
Cameron ran the offense that season from the start up to when Miles had him change it back to ground and pound so that Hill could amass his over a 1,000 yard totals too.
Fabricate as you go. Just pitiful.
quote:2005- 2900+yds
Listen, Les Miles had never had a QB throw for that many yards,
2006- 3250+yds
2007- 3150+yds
2013- 3250+yds
quote:Fun facts for you.
all because of Cam Cameron running the offense without interference from him that early part of the season.
Miles set all these LSU offensive records under different OCs.
#1, #2, #3,#4 scoring offenses(TDs rush & pass)
#1, #2, #4, #5 TDs/season
#1, #3 TD passes/season
#1, #2, #3 ppg
#1, #3, #5 yds/season
#1, #3, #5 ypp/season
#1, #4, #5 ypg/season
I could go on but gotta get to work.
I believe every single one of his OCs are repped in the LSU Record Book, and there's one common denominator, Miles.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 6:31 am to tubucoco
quote:
Listen, Les Miles had never had a QB throw for that many yards, and 2 WR have those kind of yardage outputs, that was all because of Cam Cameron running the offense without interference from him that early part of the season. But I am not gonna go down the road with a Les Miles tard like you because I've been there way too many times to know better.
it cute watching you post your opinion of the situation as if it's fact. you have no clue what was going on in the building.
but hey I'm talking to the same football ignorant poster that shite all over pocic and acted like he could see oline technique during tv broadcast.
it's like you really believe that you know what was going on in the football building.
and for the record after week 6 Jeremy hill had over 16 carries once. but hey don't let facts get in the way of your posting made up ignorant shite.
it's like you don't know that you can look this shite up before posting.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 6:43 am
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