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re: Gary "mastermind" Crowton
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:45 am to chowell21
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:45 am to chowell21
quote:
when did I give this date?
I'm drawing an inference - when you said
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I would hardly call LSUs football program elite, we've only been good for a few years
I assumed you didn't mean 50 years. Certainly we're as good as most teams over the last 50 years. Miami had a flare, Florida is in the middle of a flare, and we had a "reverse" flare in the 90s (and certainly a couple of dips here and there). My point about 58-73, was that, despite being in Bear Bryant's shadow, we were able to produce as much football success, over a very comparable period in history (1 year shifted) as the vaunted Notre Dame, under the Vaunted Ara Parsegian. And to refute your comment that we've only been good "a few years".
(We were also good in the 30s and 40s, if you would like some more analysis.)
This post was edited on 3/3/10 at 8:46 am
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Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:48 am to Ace Midnight
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(We were also good in the 30s and 40s, if you would like some more analysis.)
How many championships did we win?
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in Bear Bryant's shadow,
hard to be considered eilte in someone elses shadow
quote:
I'm drawing an inference - when you said
I still never said Nov 99
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:53 am to Ace Midnight
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as the vaunted Notre Dame,
And being almost equal to ND in a span of 12 years is hardly a way of judging a teams historical greatness
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:56 am to TheDoc
Im the last person to take up for Crowton, but i believe the Jarret Lee debacle of '08 scared the shite out of Crowton and he didnt want JJ in that position. Atleast thats what i hope. Remember, even with all the pick 6's in '08 the offense wasnt that bad. Just my opinion.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:58 am to chowell21
I love LSU football and while I know they arent the greatest program by other peoples standard, they are the greatest in my eyes.
on numbers
LSU has 3 titles
Ohio State has 5, and 1968 was the last one before 2002. Hardly dominate.
Texas has 4.
Michigan has 4. 1997 was the last and before that 1948
They are historic programs but hardly dominate
on numbers
LSU has 3 titles
Ohio State has 5, and 1968 was the last one before 2002. Hardly dominate.
Texas has 4.
Michigan has 4. 1997 was the last and before that 1948
They are historic programs but hardly dominate
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:00 am to Choctaw
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Im the last person to take up for Crowton, but i believe the Jarret Lee debacle of '08 scared the shite out of Crowton and he didnt want JJ in that position. Atleast thats what i hope. Remember, even with all the pick 6's in '08 the offense wasnt that bad. Just my opinion.
This is true, we had literally no defense that year, but with the way crowtons numbers nose dive year after year I just have to believe that the bad offensive production falls on his shoulders, I do hope he proves me wrong this year, but my guess is that he won't
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:02 am to Choctaw
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Hows this then?
I named all of those schools ahead of LSU
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:04 am to The Eric
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They are historic programs but hardly dominate
They're winning percentages are higher than LSU's in an overall aspect, and that was in the hay day of the big ten respectively
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:05 am to chowell21
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I named all of those schools ahead of LSU
Yes...you did, but you didnt include LSU. And considering they're in the top 10 on the all-time list i would put them in the elite category.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:12 am to Choctaw
I don't know how those polls are compiled but I still don't see LSU as a all-time elite team, I think we've been making a strong case for ourselves in the last 9 years which is where alot of the fame has come from because of the sec dominance of cfb the past few years, but LSU was known more for its drinking and loud fans more than its team until this decade, with our stints in the llate 50's on the cmac era
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:12 am to Choctaw
Elite would be in no order
LSU
Alabama
Florida
Texas
Oklahoma
Michigan
NotreDame
USC
Nebraska
Penn State
Miami
Florida State
LSU
Alabama
Florida
Texas
Oklahoma
Michigan
NotreDame
USC
Nebraska
Penn State
Miami
Florida State
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:15 am to The Eric
I know Michigan has the most win's of any college football program. however, does anyone know how many n.c's they have?
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:16 am to chowell21
I think you may be confusing elite with historic. And even then, LSU has been a very good team (except for the 90's) for a long time.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:17 am to dos crystal
they claim like 10 or 11
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:20 am to Choctaw
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I think you may be confusing elite with historic
This is usually a big problem on this board is the different ideas of what something is, I do think that LSU is a great program and has been for a long time, I just wouldn't put them in the same boat as teams like Michigan, ND, Bama, USC. Thats all I'm saying
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:27 am to Choctaw
quote:
I think you may be confusing elite with historic.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:32 am to TIGRLEE
Way to make an original point 
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:We aren't "football smart". Les and Gary know more collectively about football than the entire universe.
Crowton and Miles have inspired dozens of loyalists who will fight to the bitter end. Their offensive genius is just not obvious to us peons. We don't have "it." We are incapable of seeing how stellar they really are.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 9:45 am to TIGRLEE
quote:He could be a genius and still be a functioning retard. IQ doesn't necessarily equal practical knowledge.
you idiots do realize Russell Shepard is the one who said that about CG... like two days ago.
of course yall dont.
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