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Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:14 am to Topwater Trout
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He held a ball longer than he should have on a one man route with receiver double covered. It happens. Players get sacked, players fumble/throw interceptions, players drop passes and miss tackles. Drew Brees throws some bad interceptions and gets sacked. Tom Brady took a safety last night just like JJ. Maybe they should play the backup since getting sacked for a safety or holding the ball too long is such a terrible thing to do.
In baseball guys strikeout, make errors etc Making bad plays applies to all sports. Still if ref had called it right it would have been a 15yd penalty.
Really bad situation to put JJ into. Everyone knows that isn't playing to his strengths, and in fact is exposing his weaknesses. Not really his fault, but it is the fault of those who put him in that situation. I would guess that play had 15-20% chance at the most to be successful and a chanceto be a disaster.
This post was edited on 11/14/11 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Really bad situation to put JJ into. Everyone knows that isn't playing to his strengths, and in fact is exposing his weaknesses. Not really his fault, but it is the fault of those who put him in that situation. I would guess that play had 15-20% chance at the most to be successful and at least that much to be a disaster.
Bad thing is I knew that play was coming and just thought this may not end well
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:18 am to Topwater Trout
Yeah, my guess that is if this were a competitive game, that play would not have been called.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Really bad situation to put JJ into.
the situation was simple. check receiver, if he is covered throw the ball away.
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Not really his fault
he should have moved in the pocket or got rid of the ball. it isn't like he was hit from his blind side. the d-lineman hit him straight up.
for the record, i am not bashing jj. the best QBs make mistakes. but those of you saying it wasn't his fault are just making excuses.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Not a chance. Unless JL was at QB.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:22 am to ashy larry
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for the record, i am not bashing jj. the best QBs make mistakes. but those of you saying it wasn't his fault are just making excuses.
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:23 am to Drew Orleans
Two weeks in a row we call a pass play with 1 WR who gets double covered at the line. I don't understand it. No TE. No RB safety valve.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:24 am to Drew Orleans
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The fact that they called a pass with one receiver, whom was doubled covered, infuriates me
They ran this play with JL a few times this year with a big gain on it.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:25 am to hansel
FYI The ball landed at the feet of a receiver, should not have been IG..
But JJ is slow to throw the ball and has a long throwing motion..
But JJ is slow to throw the ball and has a long throwing motion..
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, my guess that is if this were a competitive game, that play would not have been called.
I disagree.
Who do you have more faith in, Brad Wing or JJ?
That was a max protection play with a simple escape option (throw it away). It was designed to prevent catastrophe, not to be a big yardage play. If it it successful great, but that is not why you run that play at that time.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:31 am to hansel
Lee would have thrown a pick 6. 
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:35 am to Bleeding purple
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He has to understand the situation.
He has not, he did not, and dare I say he does not.
and this is why the "hope" was with JL.
so it goes. two flawed qb's. college players.
they can both still lead LSU to the national title or both mess up so bad that people pull their hair out, in Ark game or Georgia dome or BCS national champ game.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:41 am to Topwater Trout
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He held a ball longer than he should have on a one man route with receiver double covered. It happens. Players get sacked, players fumble/throw interceptions, players drop passes and miss tackles. Drew Brees throws some bad interceptions and gets sacked. Tom Brady took a safety last night just like JJ. Maybe they should play the backup since getting sacked for a safety or holding the ball too long is such a terrible thing to do.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:41 am to ashy larry
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but those of you saying it wasn't his fault are just making excuses.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. JJ has limitations and that play shouldn't have been called in the first place. Very low chance of success IMO
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:43 am to hansel
He had time, three step drop then has time to take two steps foward.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:49 am to NC_Tigah
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If JJ doesn't recognize the coverage before hand and check out of the play, then he just throws the ball away as soon as he does see the route coverage. Zero risk.
this. it astounds me that a sr. qb cannot recognize the double coverage on the only wr we had going out. if he did recognize it and ran the play anyway i remain dumbfounded. of course he needed to check out of it; hell, call a time out. it was a stupid play call and it put him in a position to fail. i don't make a habit of commenting on play calling but this was ludicrous.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:50 am to BTTF
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What should infuriate you is a senior QB with over 30 starts still can not handle the basics of the position in critical down and distance situations...
There aren't enough numbers in the world that I could put behind a plus sign to show how much I agree with this
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:52 am to That LSU Guy
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Lee would have thrown a pick 6.
Posted on 11/14/11 at 10:53 am to hansel
I see T-Bob getting demolished and pushed backwards into JJ like he's nothing, but that's nothing new. 
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