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re: How much difference will the flat seam baseball make?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:31 am to ell_13
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:31 am to ell_13
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You're only thinking of the last few weeks. Our SEC only batting average lead the league.
Lead the league while not having to face the best messes up the stats when other teams do face them.
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:32 am to Catman88
We played 30 SEC games. Some games are easy... some aren't. Yes, we missed UF and Vandy. But they didn't play us either.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:56 am to ell_13
Jesus Christ you're so desperate to be right. Other than triples (where 7 more was a 65% increase) we saw around a 15-25% increase in production, you morons were saying that we'd see over 50% and I was saying that was absolutely ridiculous. And you don't think that our increase in doubles/triples/RBI's could have something to do with our team being substantially faster? Triples and RBI's are 100% dependent on team speed, they're not power stats so the fact that you brought those up and acted like they matter shows that you know nothing about baseball. You're crawfishing dumbassThis post was edited on 6/24/15 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:08 am to southeasttiger113
quote:All I'm doing is quoting you and putting out stats. How is that desperation?
Jesus Christ you're so desperate to be right.
We were saying 20 more home runs... we got 10. You were saying 3-5 (which is 5-10% - your numbers)... and you said you'd be surprised if it was that much.
quote:Are you agreeing with us now? This wasn't your tune back then. We said the team would have better hitters and that would help the numbers.
And you don't think that our increase in doubles/triples/RBI's could have something to do with our team being substantially faster?
quote:No... not 100%. Otherwise Chinea would never have gotten an inside the park HR.
Triples and RBI's are 100% dependent on team speed
quote:I brought up triples and runs (not RBIs, you idiot) so as to show a complete picture. Nothing more. I didn't want to leave anything out.
they're not power stats so the fact that you brought those up and acted like they matter shows that you know nothing about baseball.
quote:All I did was put up stats and quote you.
You're crawfishing dumbass
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:22 am to ell_13
quote:Because you still have no clue what you're talking about but you're pretending that you do? I said that I'd be surprised IF THE NEW BALLS ALONE would've added more than 5 home runs to our production last season. Considering that we had an improved and more experienced lineup with another year under a good hitting coach, I'd say that 5 due to the balls and 5 due to experience is a hell of a lot more realistic than your dumb asses saying that we could "easily" hit 20+ more
All I'm doing is quoting you and putting out stats. How is that desperation?
We were saying 20 more home runs... we got 10. You were saying 3-5 (which is 5-10% - your numbers)... and you said you'd be surprised if it was that much.
quote:That not what we were talking about dipshit, I didn't disagree but it was completely irrelevant to your arguement
Are you agreeing with us now? This wasn't your tune back then. We said the team would have better hitters and that would help the numbers.
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No... not 100%. Otherwise Chinea would never have gotten an inside the park HR.
Again, this shows that you know nothing about baseball. You think you can hit a ball hard enough against a college team to get an inside the park home run?
it's called blind luck quote:
I brought up triples and runs (not RBIs, you idiot) so as to show a complete picture. Nothing more. I didn't want to leave anything out.
Complete picture of what? The fact that our team was great at baserunning this year and had a lot of speed? As I said, anyone that's ever played baseball before knows that triples are blind luck/speed and doubles are more about good baserunning and having a fast team. But instead of arguing with me about something that you know nothing about, why don't you pull out that physics degree and tell me why we're going to hit 20+ more home runs again??
quote:Yea, and you tried to tie the stats into something that's completely irrelevant. You're a moron, but by all means carry on with being the resident delusional TD baseball idiot
All I did was put up stats and quote you.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:58 am to southeasttiger113
quote:You never mentioned that before. Yet you only bring it up now. We were bringing it up before.
Considering that we had an improved and more experienced lineup with another year under a good hitting coach
quote:10 isn't as far from 20 as you are trying to make it out to be. Chi went half the year without hitting one. Bregman and Foster could have had more.. Fraley too. We are talking about just 10 HRs.
we could "easily" hit 20+ more
quote:
it was completely irrelevant to your arguement
yet you are now trying to use it to support yours. Okay.quote:It shows that I know triples aren't just about speed... which you claimed they were 100%. Stop man. You really are too dumb for this conversation.
Again, this shows that you know nothing about baseball
quote:Yeah... they have zero to do with the ball carrying and getting to the wall. Nothing at all.
anyone that's ever played baseball before knows that triples are blind luck/speed and doubles are more about good baserunning and having a fast team.
quote:I explained why there would be more... Should we look at the total NCAA numbers to support instead of just 1 team?
why don't you pull out that physics degree and tell me why we're going to hit 20+ more home runs again??
This was as of March... the most resent I could find... HRs up 40%.
BUT YOU SAID 5-10%
Found one for April. Still up 39%:
Or we could look at the post season:
LINK
135 Home Runs in the regionals and supers compared to 87 in the whole tournament last year... That's a 55% increase without even counting the CWS where there have been 15!!!
Add in those and it's a 72.4% increase over last year.
To you sir...
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:14 pm to ell_13
quote:
10 isn't as far from 20 as you are trying to make it out to be.
Yet I was "way off" in your opinion when I said we were going to hit 46 and we ended up hitting 51? Yea dumbass, 10 extra homeruns is a lot in the current state of baseball, especially when you're talking about a team that was already in the upper 90% statistically of the NCAA
quote:There are literally two ways to hit triples in college baseball: 1. a ball hit perfectly down the line that curves into the wall combined with someone that's fast as shite and 2. a ball hit in the gap while the outfield is shifted. neither of which depend on how hard the ball is hit, again, you never played baseball and you're clueless if you think that triples aren't just speed and lucky hit placement
It shows that I know triples aren't just about speed
quote:
This was as of March... the most resent I could find... HRs up 40%.
BUT YOU SAID 5-10%
Found one for April. Still up 39%:
You are so fricking stupid
LSU was ranked 39th in the NCAA in home runs out of over 300 teams. The NCAA average was around 25 home runs last season. What's 40% of 25? Instead of spouting bullshite and twisting the numbers, why don't you just put it another way and say that the NCAA average increased by 10 home runs per team this season. Exactly the same amount as LSU hit. Keep twisting those stats though man, I feel like you should go get a job at CNN with the fricked up way you use them. But because a bunch of teams went from 15 to 25 home runs and the NCAA average is up 40% I guess that nullifies the fact that LSU only hit 10 more!!1111!! Why is baseball the only sport where loser douches like you that never played the game are somehow experts? Unlike you and 99% of this board, I've actually swung a BBCOR bat and held both baseballs that were in question and anyone that thought we were going to get 20 extra home runs with those god awful bats because we changed the fricking ball is a complete idiot.
Why don't you just eat your crow and stop digging a hole? I see you in every single baseball thread acting like you know what you're talking about and you're so clueless
people like you are exactly what's wrong with tigerdroppings. You were 100% wrong and you're still sitting here posting pretty graphics so you don't have to address the fact that I was right about people claiming that LSU was going to hit more than twice the average amount of home runs gained per team this year was absolutely ridiculousThis post was edited on 6/24/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:26 pm to southeasttiger113
Teams went from 21 to 30 on average. LSU had one of the highest averages in all of baseball. The numbers show they SHOULD have hit at least 58 HRs. And that's just if they had increased with the average. Take into account our high batting average and experienced hitters that you now claim, we should have had about 65.
You are too dumb to understand that 10 HRs for one team is completely different that a 10 HR average for almost 300 teams.
See my new thread. LSU underperformed in terms of HRs. Basically, you got lucky that it was closer to your number. Overall stats agree with me and prove the point I was making. Sorry you suck bruh.
You are too dumb to understand that 10 HRs for one team is completely different that a 10 HR average for almost 300 teams.
See my new thread. LSU underperformed in terms of HRs. Basically, you got lucky that it was closer to your number. Overall stats agree with me and prove the point I was making. Sorry you suck bruh.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:44 pm to southeasttiger113
So on average a team that hit 20 last year hits 30 this year.
And you think I'm dumb for predicting a team that hits 40 would hit 60?
You don't math well at all.
I'm going to need you to tell me how retarded you are. Just so we are all on the same page about your stupidity.
And you think I'm dumb for predicting a team that hits 40 would hit 60?
You don't math well at all.
I'm going to need you to tell me how retarded you are. Just so we are all on the same page about your stupidity.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:12 pm to ell_13
quote:Again, you never played baseball past middle school so you can't understand this, but that isn't the way that sports work champ. If the average team gains 10 home runs, the highest performing team isn't going to gain that plus an extra 150%. Percentages are a terrible barometer for sports statistics. "Overall stats agree with me", yea well reality doesn't dumbfrick. Stop trying so hard and go find a hobby, you were wrong and you and your queer message board friends are just mad because you were wrong about the massive circle jerk you were having preseason.
You are too dumb to understand that 10 HRs for one team is completely different that a 10 HR average for almost 300 teams.
See my new thread. LSU underperformed in terms of HRs. Basically, you got lucky that it was closer to your number. Overall stats agree with me and prove the point I was making. Sorry you suck bruh.
We shouldn't have had about 65, we should've had about 50. I'm right and you're wrong, just because you have a physics degree doesn't mean that you understand jack shite about baseball. Do everybody on this board a favor and tone down your weird obsessive baseball fan crap, you don't understand the game or how it works.
You continually quote a stat that was derived from the 90% of the NCAA that hit between 15 and 25 home runs and it doesn't apply to LSU, your logic is flawed in 1000 ways. I'm really sorry that you resort to telling me that "I'm too dumb to understand baseball" even though my prediction was spot on and you're sitting here making an arse out of yourself because, for whatever reason, every casual baseball fan can never be wrong. Give it up "bruh"
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:13 pm to southeasttiger113
You seriously. Seriously. Do not understand math and stats. Please post that in an unanchored thread. The world needs to know how dumb you are.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:15 pm to southeasttiger113
You're prediction was not "spot on". it was off by 6 or 7. Mine was off by 10. The overall stats support me. Nothing supports you. This is awesome.
it was off by 6 or 7. Mine was off by 10. The overall stats support me. Nothing supports you. This is awesome. Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:18 pm to ell_13
quote:
So on average a team that hit 20 last year hits 30 this year.
And you think I'm dumb for predicting a team that hits 40 would hit 60?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. That isn't how it works and you need to stop talking about baseball if you think that middle school math is a good predictor of home run totals in a sport that has 10000000 variables. I actually played baseball past high school, you didn't. You're not qualified to tell me that I'm wrong when I know exactly what I'm talking about and predicted it a lot more accurately than you
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:20 pm to southeasttiger113
Tell me. What 1000000 variables did you take into account when you said you'd be surprised if the home run total went up only 5-10%? Meaning just 2 to 4 HRs?
Oh. And I played baseball in college. I linked my stats here 2 years ago while drunk. Others know me. You're just some nobody kid who failed 5th grade math and science.
Oh. And I played baseball in college. I linked my stats here 2 years ago while drunk. Others know me. You're just some nobody kid who failed 5th grade math and science.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:22 pm to ell_13
I was off by 5, you were off by 20-25. We were predicting the increase moron, not that exact number. But I don't understand stats right? As I've said 10 times, I played pro baseball. You didn't. Do you think I made a lucky fricking guess or something when I said that 60+ home runs was a ridiculous prediction? The guy that was just talking about the "cores of baseballs" being different is acting like I'm the moron.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:24 pm to ell_13
I said total offensive production first of all, and I was right. Look at your cute graphic and tell me how much batting average went up, smart guy
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:25 pm to southeasttiger113
You were off by 6-8. I was off by 9-10.
Every single one of your arguments in here didn't have shite to do with LSU specifically by the way. Which I why I was posting overall stats. I can hack and quote you where you said no way would HRs go up 40%. You blamed the bats. The ones every team uses.
Yet that's exactly what happened. HRs increased by 41%.
You are hilarious. So entertaining. I really do appreciate what you've done here.
Every single one of your arguments in here didn't have shite to do with LSU specifically by the way. Which I why I was posting overall stats. I can hack and quote you where you said no way would HRs go up 40%. You blamed the bats. The ones every team uses.
Yet that's exactly what happened. HRs increased by 41%.
You are hilarious. So entertaining. I really do appreciate what you've done here.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:27 pm to southeasttiger113
LSU batting average went up 10%
Run production up 14%
Run production up 14%
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:31 pm to ell_13
We're on a fricking LSU message board and we were talking about LSU, now all of a sudden I was predicting the NCAA averages? you're a fricking fig bud, you were completely wrong and you're still sitting here talking about percentages like they mean shite. You're wrong. Get over it douchebag. There WAS no way that home runs FOR LSU were going to increase by 50% because that's adding 20 home runs because the fricking balls changed and that's so unrealistic but really crawfish some more and post NCAA percentages because you were wrong as frick about LSU
you're a fricking fig bud, you were completely wrong and you're still sitting here talking about percentages like they mean shite. You're wrong. Get over it douchebag. There WAS no way that home runs FOR LSU were going to increase by 50% because that's adding 20 home runs because the fricking balls changed and that's so unrealistic but really crawfish some more and post NCAA percentages because you were wrong as frick about LSUPosted on 6/24/15 at 2:37 pm to ell_13
quote:You are sooooooo painfully stupid. When we were making predictions we didn't know that LSU was going to hit 51 HR's this year. My prediction was from 41 to 46 (off by 5) and yours was from 41 to 60+, off by 10+. Regardless you were way off to predict an addition of 20+ home runs. Again, you don't understand math or "statistics" as you like to say. You're a complete jackass man
You were off by 6-8. I was off by 9-10.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 2:39 pm
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