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re: I hope Dave Aranda understands that LSU could burn to the ground...
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:02 am to LSU Groupee
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:02 am to LSU Groupee
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It's not about O. It's about the process which gave us O and the fact the man behind that process is still in charge of hiring LSU coaches.
Exactly. Alleva went from plan a&b to plan z within 24 hours. He refused to actually do his job and find a qualified coach. He needs to be shown the door.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:06 am to Tiger Ree
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Did Saban lose to teams he had much more talent than? Did he lose to teams he was a double digit favorite to win against?
Yes. He does it every year at bama. Its like you dont watch cfb.
And you still refuse to understand what im saying about saban. If you looked at saban before lsu, the way you are looking at herman, you would have the same response about saban as you are with herman. Saban lost way more at msu than herman has at houston.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:07 am to Tiger Ree
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No, I am okay with hiring a guy who took over for another guy that Rantards at one time wanted for head coach. The guy - Lane Kiffin went 4-7 in his last 11 games before being fired on the tarmac at the airport. CEO took over the program in the fifth game of the season and guided the same team to a 6-2 record with a win over #4 Stanford.
I am okay with hiring a guy who took over LSU in the fifth game of the season and led the team to a much better performance than his predecessor. CEO's stint at Ole Miss 10 years ago is not the only evidence to judge him on.
God you know nothing about cfb.
Ed orgeron didnt run the offense.
Ed orgeron didnt run the defense
At any of his interim tenures.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:why don't you go ahead and grab two more and then we'll talk
My degree
internet pissing contest? I'll let you win. You sound like you need it. congrats Bill Madison, you can take over the company
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:32 am to Meauxjeaux
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LSU could burn to the ground...
And he'd be in position to be the next coach.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:37 am to Tiger Ree
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CEO's stint at Ole Miss 10 years ago is not the only evidence to judge him on.
It's the ONLY evidence that can be presented as to his ability to lead an SEC team when he has full control of that team for a three year period of time. Therefore, it should have been the deciding factor in any evaluation process. Its a fact that Alleva picked a failed HC.
It's funny that you want to piss on Herman over a couple losses when he directed a winning program, but want to praise O a few wins when he was interim and gloss over his abject failure when he ran a SEC program.
Joe, that you?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No its not. Hiring the least qualified coach isnt a healthy practice for a program.
Good thing they didn't hire the least qualified coach. That would have been Tom Herman.
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Hiring the least qualified coach in big 6 history is always stupid regardless of the outcome
Since you are ONLY making this asinine statement based on something from 10 years ago certainly doesn't make it true and actually does the opposite. Just like with Herman. You can only look at his wins when judging him. His losses don't matter - right?
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It is stupid to hire a career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense or program.
Not if you have the BEST evidence in the world to help you make the decision. Alleva actually got to see what CEO could do while running the LSU program. He also got to see that Herman couldn't win against less talented teams and finish in the top three of the AAC.
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Youre hypocrisy has been shown and proven.you dont give herman credit for his 1st 2 seasons at Houston because they were his players yet tout Orgeron's interim tenures.
Both coaches took over programs from other staff's. CEO lost two games in his tenure at LSU. One was in his fourth game on the job to the consensus #1 team in the country. In the same time span Herman Went from #6 in the country to unranked losing to Navy, SMU and Memphis. The bad part was it was in his second year leading the program. Why was he worse in his second year being outcoached by guys with less talent?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:54 am to LSU Groupee
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It's not about O. It's about the process which gave us O and the fact the man behind that process is still in charge of hiring LSU coaches.
It shouldn't be the process of him showing what he can actually do on the job? It shouldn't involve the process of knowing that he did pretty good at it - all while having a TE's coach leading the offense?
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As long as Alleva remains the LSU AD, it shouldn't be over for anyone who wants sports success at LSU.
I don't know what this even means. Do you?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:01 pm to Tiger4Ever
IF we had not canned GoodOleLess, we would still the same hopeless 9-3 or 8-4 team record every year.
IF you don't think GoodOleLess needed replacing, then no hire would please you. I didn't care who got hired, we just needed to run off that worthless fricking miles. One more thing. We hired a coach who wants to be here, his dream job. miles wasn't going anywhere until he was forced out of the nest. I think the future of our program is better off than a year ago.
IF you don't think GoodOleLess needed replacing, then no hire would please you. I didn't care who got hired, we just needed to run off that worthless fricking miles. One more thing. We hired a coach who wants to be here, his dream job. miles wasn't going anywhere until he was forced out of the nest. I think the future of our program is better off than a year ago.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Yes. He does it every year at bama. Its like you dont watch cfb.
Yes I do. Enough to know that Saban has not lost a game this year. How does he do it EVERY year if he is currently undefeated. And you say I don't watch college football? What an idiot.
I think you are referring to Saban's losses to lesser teams in his FIRST seasons at LSU and Bama. Yes, Saban in his first year at Bama lost to ULM. His SECOND year on the job he only lost to the #4 and #6 teams in the country. Tom Herman in his second year lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis.
Again, Tom Herman is no Nick Saban.
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If you looked at saban before lsu, the way you are looking at herman, you would have the same response about saban as you are with herman. Saban lost way more at msu than herman has at houston.
Saban's teams showed up while he was at Michigan State. Unlike Herman's teams they weren't always the most talented or favored by double digit margins but they played well for the most part. Herman lost to a 16 point dog Navy and a 23 point dog SMU.
No comparison. Tom Herman is no Nick Saban and what he did in his second year proves that.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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God you know nothing about cfb.
You keep saying that but you don't even realize Alabama is undefeated this year. Probably don't know the won the NC last year either. I know more about CFB than you just based on this bit of knowledge you are somehow lacking.
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Ed orgeron didnt run the offense. Ed orgeron didnt run the defense At any of his interim tenures.
So, he's the head fricking coach. He can sit in a recliner and read the newspaper the whole game as long as LSU wins.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:09 pm to LSU Groupee
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Therefore, it should have been the deciding factor in any evaluation process. Its a fact that Alleva picked a failed HC
Got-darn, you are about as dumb as the other guy. So, any program hiring a coach should only consider what happened in his career 10 years ago.
But, THIS YEAR going 4-3 in your last 7 and finishing 6th in your conference and 4th in your division should get you the job?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:16 pm to Tiger Ree
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any program hiring a coach should only consider what happened in his career 10 years ago.
I can tell you never hired anyone but maybe a laborer.
The greatest weight in the evaluation process is always given to the work experience done the longest performing the job functions that most closely matches those the person is being hired to do. That means his performance at Mississippi as their head coach gets the most weight in the O hiring process. If O had been respected enough in college football as head coach material, he would have been hired at some lower level school and THEN what happened at Mississippi wouldn't carry so much weight.
Man, there isn't a AD in college football who wouldn't take Herman in a heart beat over O. Dumb are the retards trying to pretend that the process which left us with O isn't fricked up and that Alleva did a good job in this clusterfrick.
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