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re: Interesting Read About Les Leaving Ok. State
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:24 am to ZereauxSum
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:24 am to ZereauxSum
MIles was able to beat big brother twice and people were starting to believe, so yeah they were pissed because he said he wasn't looking around. I can't say I blame them for the decision at the time. Same feelings I felt when the Dolphins came calling to BR. Saban was in the middle of recruiting, etc. He didn't have the focus for the bowl game according to some ex players.
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:32 am to Topwater Trout
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Just looked it up on wikepedia (would post if I knew how) but Miles and Gundy were the finalist for the head coach position at OSU in 2001.
Miles hired him. Not much else to say is there?
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:34 am to Hitchcock
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Miles hired him. Not much else to say is there?
Just stating he was a finalist with Miles for the HC position. With the politics of cfb I doubt Miles wasn't pressured into hiring him.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:36 am to Topwater Trout
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So when a coach recruits a kid to come play for him and the next year he takes a better offer that is not considered bailing on him and his teamates?
You can see if that way if you want. He had a good opportunity and he took LSU up on it. I don't think the decision had anything to do with the kids. I'm sure it's a struggle for a lot of coaches when they get better opportunities. There is no perfect time for a coach to leave. The kids will get over it in time. And every kid should have some family member or counselor advising him to choose a school for what it offers and not because of the head coach.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:36 am to Hitchcock
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Hitchcock
What up, Sandwich?
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:38 am to Rocket
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You can see if that way if you want. He had a good opportunity and he took LSU up on it.
So you do not consider it bailing?
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:42 am to Topwater Trout
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you do not consider it bailing?
No. The decision had nothing to do with the kids. Almost any coach in his situation would have done the exact same thing. You'll get over it.
This happens all of the time. Gundy took over and things seem to have moved along fine there.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:48 am to Rocket
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No. The decision had nothing to do with the kids. Almost any coach in his situation would have done the exact same thing. You'll get over it.
Is it because we are talking about Miles and that makes it not bailing? Because I believe when any coach leaves for more money after recruiting kids on the premise that he will be their coach that it is bailing on them for a better deal.
I never said it was wrong....my point is that is how the players view it.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Is it because we are talking about Miles and that makes it not bailing?
No, I didn't consider it "bailing" when Nick left MSU or when he left LSU or when Mack Brown left UNC for Texas or when Rich Rod left for UM or when Meyer left Utah for UF or when Tubs left Ole Miss for Auburn or when Tressel left Youngstown for OSU or when O'Brien left BC for NC State or when Fran left Bama for Texas A&M and so on and so on. IT's been happening for decades and decades. It's the nature of the business. Bear Bryant left A&M for Bama. Dietzel left LSU for West Point,etc.
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Because I believe when any coach leaves for more money after recruiting kids on the premise that he will be their coach that it is bailing on them for a better deal.
You can believe what you want to believe. And every kid should know that a coach can leave at anytime. Every kid should have someone telling them what to base their decision off of.
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never said it was wrong....my point is that is how the players view it.
And in time, they'll get over it and come to understand the decision. Coaches are not going to put their career aspirations on hold because it may hurt some players feelings. Coaches know they can get fired at any moment because of the insanity and impatience of fan bases. They are going to do what they have to do. Miles had the opportunity to make more money in the long run and coach at one of college football's most storied programs that has all of the things in place to win a national title.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:58 am to The Mick
I dno how I feel about this.. I mean, it's kinda like having your ex girlfriend eat Christmas dinner with your family.. like, WTF is she doing here? lol
Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:59 am to Topwater Trout
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my point is that is how the players view it.
And how do you know this? You've got your finger on the pulse of OSU alums
So if Matt Flynn goes to another team this offseason do you think his former teamates are going to sit around with lamentations of "he bailed on us"!!
Those former players committed to OSU for the opportunity for academic, physical, and spiritual growth. The chance that the head coach would be upwardly mobile is a known risk at every program.
Those players understand that...each of them have their own dreams and aspirations as well.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:02 am to Rantavious
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And how do you know this? You've got your finger on the pulse of OSU alums
Its called common sense. You don't think that the players feel that way?
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Those former players committed to OSU for the opportunity for academic, physical, and spiritual growth.
Oh and you know them all personally? Right back at you!
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:03 am to LSUinMA
there is a lot of sick identification politics played when coaches leave.
remember when Michigan AD would not let the coach finish and coach the NCAA's and some assistant got the NC!!
pretty lame not letting Les say goodbye to his guys though.
remember when Michigan AD would not let the coach finish and coach the NCAA's and some assistant got the NC!!
pretty lame not letting Les say goodbye to his guys though.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:12 am to Topwater Trout
I don't like it either- businesses do that all the time when management or key personnel leave- heck they even escort people out with other management or security
Face it we live it a world where most people have no respect for others- only themselves
May be why our society is the way it is
Face it we live it a world where most people have no respect for others- only themselves
May be why our society is the way it is
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:16 am to The Mick
At least Miles wanted to address the team. At least he had the balls to stand and face them eye to eye. Unlike Petrino or Francioni and other coaches who just leave and don't make an attempt.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:22 am to 756
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I don't like it either- businesses do that all the time when management or key personnel leave- heck they even escort people out with other management or security
What gets me is you always here give 2 weeks notice it is the right thing to do......but I have seen those people sent packing when giving 2 weeks and in most cases they told the new company they would start in 2 weeks.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 2:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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I give miles credit when he deserves it
no you don't
Posted on 12/28/10 at 3:30 pm to Choctaw
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no you don't
I have said he is a good recruiter. Good with the players....the players obviously play hard for him.
That isn't giving him credit?
Show me one post where I have ever said to fie him. Just b/c i do not worship him as a coach doesn't mean there aren't good qualities about him.
This post was edited on 12/28/10 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 12/28/10 at 4:29 pm to LSUinMA
Never pretty when a coach leaves for another school. I remember Cinncy players throwing stuff around when Kelly told them he was going to ND. I am pretty sure NTD didn't say anything to his Mich St team in 1999 when he left to come to LSU. He damned sure didn't tell the Dolphins. In fact he stood them up at the press conference.
Posted on 12/28/10 at 5:38 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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I am pretty sure NTD didn't say anything to his Mich St team in 1999 when he left to come to LSU.
He said otherwise in his book, FWIW.
Topwater needs to understand that when a university fires their head coach(or when a coach steps down or leaves for another school), most of the time the folks doing the hiring for the university are going to look at head coaches at other universities first to replace that coach and then make offers. Thus the carousel sets in motion. It's just the way it is. It happens every offseason and usually starts in early december and ends in late january.
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