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Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:55 pm to drdoct
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There hasn't been anything Joe A has been involved with that hasn't been a train wreck
I think you are the first poster I have seen that doesn't like the Will Wade basketball hire.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:00 am to BayouBengals18
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O HIRED THE ONLY OC THAT WAS A BROYLES AWARD FINALIST
Well shite you can comprehend when you see something enough times. Yes, you are right. Luckily Coach O doesn't need a Broyles Award finalist this year. I think the Broyles Award is given every year. Not sure though.
Oh, you're freaking out like the other guy but just not so far into the future. Okay, you're right, LSU is doomed that the only Broyles guy on offense has already been hired.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:04 am to SeekGreatness
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I pity you.
You're the one crying about last year's UF game even after the HC has made changes to correct most of the things that caused LSU to lose.
You are the one who then turns right around and starts crying about made up shite that may or may not happen in the not-so-near future.
Yeah, but go ahead and pity me. Shed a tear for me.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:12 am to Tiger Ree
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Tiger Ree
Cries about people who don't think O was the best hire.
Accuses same people of "crying" because O wasn't the best hire.
SJW much?
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 12:14 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:31 am to Brazos
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Do you really believe he was the best candidate for the HC job?
Yes, he does. And he's totally ok with a local radio host sitting in on interviews for coaching positions.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:10 am to Brazos
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You really knight hard for O. Do you really believe he was the best candidate for the HC job? Do you really believe that crap?
Doesn't matter what I believe. He is the head coach at LSU. Whining about it won't make it change.
With the moves he has made, including possibly have the two best coordinators in college football, I don't have a problem with him being head coach. Add that to the fact that he was able to maintain and sign the #7 recruiting class in the country and I am glad he is the head coach. There were no sure bets out there once Jimbo turned LSU down.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:11 am to Broski
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Ok, I'll play, what makes Orgeron a good head coach?
He's a much, much better HC than you are a poster.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:11 am to TrueTigerTale
Coach O is an excellent communicator and it's not arrogance it's simply due to the fact that he is comfortable in his own skin and in his abilities. In that department, he puts Miles to shame.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:13 am to SeekGreatness
Damn sorry I hurt your feelings. NOT @@@
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:18 am to BayouBengals18
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And he's totally ok with a local radio host sitting in on interviews for coaching positions
If he had even a minute amount of input/responsibility for Matt Canada being on the LSU football staff, you are 100% correct.
Coach O has made what appear to be great hires and you are dumb enough to bitch about who attends the meetings with potential staff members.
I guess that explains why you are still crying about the O hire even after 8 months and lots of improvements to the LSU program. Gotta bitch about something.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:20 am to Tiger Ree
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you are dumb enough to bitch about who attends the meetings with potential staff members.
So, you are Derek Ponamsky. fricking clown.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:38 am to Broski
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Ok, I'll play, what makes Orgeron a good head coach?
I think we will all be able to answer that better after a full year. HOWEVER, he showed up LM and Cam last year after taking over the program and showed those 2 goofy bastards how to put up points on the board, and how to mix up that cloud of dust offense with a real passing game.
O, and the real con man was LM, Orergon is just more polished as a speaker and communicator and does not ramble and look for words to come out of his mouth. He needs to run the program not be the best X and O man. If he delegates authority to quality coaches then LSU will be fine
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:40 am to SeekGreatness
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I am giving him a shot BC there isn't any choice
Wow! Thats awful big of ya there to give CEO "a shot" being as how you aint got jack shite to say abou anything.
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but there are concerns for the future.
Does any team not worry about the future? How about enjoying the here and now chicken little.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:45 am to Brazos
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You really knight hard for O. Do you really believe he was the best candidate for the HC job? Do you really believe that crap?
He believes that O was the only qualified candidate at the time because our admin had fked the situation up so bad that no one else was knocking on the door or waiting in the wings.
Would you have been ok with retaining Miles after the 2-2 start? Would that have been a suitable arrangement?
I know Rick and a few others would have been whipping off at the prospect but a change....ANY CHANGE...needed to be made.
Don't blame O for taking a job nobody else apparently wanted or was lobbying for.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:51 am to Broski
Okay, let's put you in Alleva's spot, who would you have hired to be LSU coach last year? Who was realistically a better candidate for the job other than Coach O?
Not to mention, that because we kept Coach O, we also were able to keep virtually all of our recruits. Had O not been hired and a whole new coaching staff brought in, we would have ended up writing off this last year's recruiting class. Which would mean we would have to pay for it in the future down the line.
Nonetheless, Einstein, who would you have brought in to be our new head coach? Indeed, who would you have enticed to take the job and why would he have been a far better hire than an awful (according to you) Coach O, and also worth losing a recruiting class over it?
Moreover, why wasn't Coach O awful at USC and at LSU during his two interim head coaching stints? Do you think he was just lucky or something, or maybe that he learned a few things from his past mistakes as a head coach?
Do you think most people learn better from their own stupid mistakes or do people just stay stupid forever? So I guess you were perfect at your own job from day one without having to learn anything from the school of hard knocks like all normal human beings and never improved on anything since you were hired. In other words, according to you, experience means nothing. As people don't have the ability to learn and improve on their own mistakes.
By the way, Coach O may not have won a lot of games at Ole Miss when he was there, but neither did his predecessor, which is why he got the job, to begin with. However, he recruited damn well though. Indeed, Houston Nutt came in and won immediately with Coach O's players and then as soon as those players graduated, all of a sudden Houston Nutt couldn't win any games either. Meanwhile, Hugh Escort Freeze says, had Coach O been given that fourth year of his contract, that the program would have been turned around and he would still be the head coach today.
Nonetheless, according to you, Coach O is a horrible hire. Indeed, awful enough of a hire to throw away an entire recruiting class down the drain.
I guess Charlie Strong was a horrible hire at Texas too because he couldn't win either in three years with another coach's players.
Not to mention, that because we kept Coach O, we also were able to keep virtually all of our recruits. Had O not been hired and a whole new coaching staff brought in, we would have ended up writing off this last year's recruiting class. Which would mean we would have to pay for it in the future down the line.
Nonetheless, Einstein, who would you have brought in to be our new head coach? Indeed, who would you have enticed to take the job and why would he have been a far better hire than an awful (according to you) Coach O, and also worth losing a recruiting class over it?
Moreover, why wasn't Coach O awful at USC and at LSU during his two interim head coaching stints? Do you think he was just lucky or something, or maybe that he learned a few things from his past mistakes as a head coach?
Do you think most people learn better from their own stupid mistakes or do people just stay stupid forever? So I guess you were perfect at your own job from day one without having to learn anything from the school of hard knocks like all normal human beings and never improved on anything since you were hired. In other words, according to you, experience means nothing. As people don't have the ability to learn and improve on their own mistakes.
By the way, Coach O may not have won a lot of games at Ole Miss when he was there, but neither did his predecessor, which is why he got the job, to begin with. However, he recruited damn well though. Indeed, Houston Nutt came in and won immediately with Coach O's players and then as soon as those players graduated, all of a sudden Houston Nutt couldn't win any games either. Meanwhile, Hugh Escort Freeze says, had Coach O been given that fourth year of his contract, that the program would have been turned around and he would still be the head coach today.
Nonetheless, according to you, Coach O is a horrible hire. Indeed, awful enough of a hire to throw away an entire recruiting class down the drain.
I guess Charlie Strong was a horrible hire at Texas too because he couldn't win either in three years with another coach's players.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 2:04 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:59 am to Space Cowboy
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awful enough of a hire to throw away an entire recruiting class down the drain.
This is true IMO. You start completely over and we flounder in the short run losing recruits and games.
If, for example, Fedora came in. Do we get Canada? Does Aranda stay? Does the recruiting class experience a mass exodus?
At least by keeping O it doesnt automatically screw us in the short run. There is at least some continuity and stability.
Now whether O can sustain long term success, which is the mark of a great coach, remains to be seen.
I will agree with the whiners though that anything less than 10 wins would be a disappointment. He wins at Bama though and 9-3 would satisfy most Tiger fans.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:00 am to Space Cowboy
The thing people focus on, and rightfully so, to an extent, is the record O has as a HC.
I said to an extent because, while yes, he was the head coach, it was also 10 years ago.
Kiffin was booted out and O took over at USC and they improved, quickly. I think he deserves credit for that. (even though I hate USC)
Miles was fired and he took over at LSU and they improved, quickly. See where I'm going with this?
It's almost like some people are saying or suggesting, "there's no way he would actually learn from his past mistakes" (like you or I would). It's a ridiculous argument.
He didn't do squat because he had the interim tag attached to his position. I've seen this a lot as well. This makes no sense. He did better than the previous coach, this season, with people he didn't pick, yet he gets no credit for that because of an "interim" label?
Then his teams beats, actually dismantles, the Heisman trophy winner in the bowl game, and some people still are still blah at the hire. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, to be sure, but I don't think those people are being entirely fair to O in the process.
I said to an extent because, while yes, he was the head coach, it was also 10 years ago.
Kiffin was booted out and O took over at USC and they improved, quickly. I think he deserves credit for that. (even though I hate USC)
Miles was fired and he took over at LSU and they improved, quickly. See where I'm going with this?
It's almost like some people are saying or suggesting, "there's no way he would actually learn from his past mistakes" (like you or I would). It's a ridiculous argument.
He didn't do squat because he had the interim tag attached to his position. I've seen this a lot as well. This makes no sense. He did better than the previous coach, this season, with people he didn't pick, yet he gets no credit for that because of an "interim" label?
Then his teams beats, actually dismantles, the Heisman trophy winner in the bowl game, and some people still are still blah at the hire. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, to be sure, but I don't think those people are being entirely fair to O in the process.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 2:02 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:01 am to RedTigerRulz
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Now whether O can sustain long term success, which is the mark of a great coach, remains to be seen.
Precisely.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:02 am to la_birdman
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to be sure, but I don't think those people are being entirely fair to O in the process.
preach
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