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Posted on 7/10/11 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 7:38 pm to
but why do y'all feel its impossible for him to improve...especially after the praise he's received from unbiased "experts"? He proved in '09 he's capable of having a decent season.

and don't give me this bullshite about we heard it all last year.
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 7:45 pm to
quote:


Does JJ have anyone to blame other than himself for all (or at least the majority) of this heat he gets?


Yes, absolutely there are others to blame... not just JJ. I have said a hundred times JJ has had plenty of help screwing up last season.

BOTH QBs have had plenty of help screwing up. I have NEVER defended JJ singly... and have said a few times he hasn't played well. But I always say BOTH QBs.... not just JJ.

I dare anyone to find a link where I said JJ played well as a whole... or that he's a good QB. I may have said he's played well at times. How is that not a fact? But somehow idiots like Rudy think I'm a JJ supporter.

I'm an LSU supporter (not a supporter of a single QB) and I'm observant enough to notice there was more than 1 person to blame than either QB for the offensive troubles. And the offense will NOT improve drastically with ANY QB on the roster currently, unless EVERYONE plays better.

How is this not a fact? How is this being confused for defending JJ only? Some people are so full of hatred, that if you don't fully agree with them, then you must be a JJ fanboi.

During the past few weeks I have stated, basically, only 2 points.

1. JJ AND JL have had plenty of help screwing up. (FACT)

2. Rudy is an Idiot Hater. (again FACT)
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Lucky for JJ that those who know him best and know the LSU team best, the LSU coaching staff, don't agree we you.


Thank God!
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:00 pm to
which part of JJ's mouth/words does others have a hand in? ..........just curious.

Im not even going to get into the actual play on the field concerning others to blame.. anyone who has played ball knows that any sport is a team game and it takes all to make things go, however I will say our offenseive line was better than 09 and so was our running game... the only position on the field that went backwards instead of frwds was qb.

And speaking of the "improvement" deal.. whats really funny is I remember after 08 season nobaody wanted to extend Jlee the same courtesey.. The really F'ked up part of it is JLEE was a FRESHMAN going into his soph season.... JJ is a Jr going into his SR year.

One would think a younger first year player would show more improvement going into his second season than older third year player goin into his last... Thats just me though.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

TIGERLEE


You can't help yourself can you?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:21 pm to
90% of his and Rudy's posts are attacks on Jordan Jefferson. Check their post history.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10437 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

"I will be the starter, hands down"

quote:

"I’m doing the best of my abilities to teach Mettenberger the full game since I’ve been here for three years. "

quote:

"There’s going to come a point of time where he will be the starter so just passing down the knowledge will benefit him a lot."

That JJ is a word smith.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

which part of JJ's mouth/words does others have a hand in?


I thought you were referring to game play. But if you were referring to what he said, He wasn't blaming anyone else... he said he was starter hands down. And no I don't have a problem with that statement as he IS the starter hands down.

quote:

Im not even going to get into the actual play on the field concerning others to blame.. anyone who has played ball knows that any sport is a team game and it takes all to make things go, however I will say our offenseive line was better than 09 and so was our running game... the only position on the field that went backwards instead of frwds was qb.

And speaking of the "improvement" deal.. whats really funny is I remember after 08 season nobaody wanted to extend Jlee the same courtesey.. The really F'ked up part of it is JLEE was a FRESHMAN going into his soph season.... JJ is a Jr going into his SR year.

One would think a younger first year player would show more improvement going into his second season than older third year player goin into his last... Thats just me though.


I don't really have much of a problem with any of this.
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

90% of his and Rudy's posts are attacks on Jordan Jefferson.


I think you are giving him too much credit. He has NOTHING else to offer this forum than bashing JJ.

At least Tigerlee has seemed a little better at conversation. At least he isn't calling someone a JJ fanboi just cause they don't agree completely with him... although he started of pretty bad by insulting me when he clearly misread what I said.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

I thought you were referring to game play. But if you were what he said, He wasn't blaming anyone else... he said he was starter hands down. And no I don't have a problem with that statement as he IS the starter hands down


earlier you said I had problems with reading comprehension... this is interesting.
I clearly said just a few mins ago that whats happened to JJ is MANIFESTATION of things he has done and said over a couple years.
If he had been a relativley low key, dont say stupid things type player... I as most prob the majority of othere posters wouldnt have much problem with this paticular thread/qoute.

Its the accumulation of things he has said that make me and others react the way we do.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:43 pm to
rooad is the JJ version of rudy.

Im going to steal a line from him.. check his post history.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Im going to steal a line from him.. check his post history.

Please do. . .
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

earlier you said I had problems with reading comprehension... this is interesting.
I clearly said just a few mins ago that whats happened to JJ is MANIFESTATION of things he has done and said over a couple years.
If he had been a relativley low key, dont say stupid things type player... I as most prob the majority of othere posters wouldnt have much problem with this paticular thread/qoute.

Its the accumulation of things he has said that make me and others react the way we do.


But the thing is, none of the stuff he says is that bad. Some people just like to be over dramatic. JJ saying he is starter, is exactly what you want him to say. Yet people make it a bad thing. And the point made was if JL said it, people would be lauding him. But since it wasn't JL... the bashing ensues.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

rooad is the JJ version of rudy.
I am fair and objective.

The loons are all on your side.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

rooad is the JJ version of rudy.


You mean he spends 90% of his time praising JJ?

Road was saying rudy only bashes... doesn't bother talking about anything other than how poorly JJ plays. I don't see Rooad anything like Rudy. He at least talks on different subjects.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:52 pm to
And I neither bash, nor praise JJ.

I just point out other people's absurdity.


Me: We need more consistent play at the QB position.

Hater: Because Miles refuses to play the better QB.

Me: That's a pretty silly statement

Hater: JJ LOVER!!!!

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Me: Glad to hear experts are saying Jefferson is making strides in the offseason.

Hater: I've heard it before.

Me: When?

Hater: Same time last year.

Me: Link?

Hater: JJ LOVER!!!!!!!! FANBOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:56 pm to
LOL but true
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

But the thing is, none of the stuff he says is that bad.


come on dude, your're better than that.

JJ has said some utterly stupid things, worst part it is most was last season when his play on the field didnt exactly match up.
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 9:00 pm
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:01 pm to
man you guys are still on this?

why people cant understand that the offense will be better is beyond me. the offense last year was not a just a JJ or JL problem.

They were just a symptom of a disfunctional system.

And a mediocre oline.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

They were just a symptom of a disfunctional system.


others would argue a lack of execution was the problem.

Suppose valid case for both could be made.
Good for us its 2011, 2010 is over.
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