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Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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at least i can read. answer the question you were asked pages ago
who was better
laron in 2003 or laron in 2006
JR in 2003 or JR in 2006
steltz in 2007 or laron in 2006
nelson in 2006 or laron in 2006
You do realize that a less talented player with less stats can contribute more to a winning team than the more talented and heralded player?
Thats football; a block away from the main action of a play can be an action that triggers a cutback run for a TD.
Thats why Championships and wins mean credibility for a staff. You don't know and I don't know because we don't watch all the film. We don't see all the little parts that make up the overall play on the field. You may think you know everything KW brings to the table because he runs a 4.4 40 with good size, but do you have the camera angles to really break down his pass blocking? Do you know if he is running the right routes to open up a space for a different player to catch the ball?
You don't, and what to do with that information can make or break teams. Thats why wins and championships mean credibility over whatever knowledge we can gather as experts on the couch.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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95% of the time it's the opposite
I don't have to knock KW because he didn't get to play in front of a Senior who earned the PT........
The stats are that JH had over 1,000 yards rushing w/ double digit TD's and numerous other big plays for the Tigers. I don't need to knock KW to say this.
He will get his turn soon enough.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:15 pm to Tigercat
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You do realize that a less talented player with less stats can contribute more to a winning team than the more talented and heralded player?
how?
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Thats why Championships and wins mean credibility for a staff.
coaching staff? yes
individual player? no
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You may think you know everything KW brings to the table because he runs a 4.4 40 with good size,
no i think he's awesome because i've seen him run and do great things on the field
just like JR isn't better than flynn b/c he has more talent. he's better because he was a better QB. better decision maker. more accurate. turned the ball over less.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:15 pm to lsusteve1
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Senior who earned the PT
you "Earn" pt by being the better player
or at least that's how it should be
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He will get his turn soon enough.
you mean like 2006 when he was our starter for the 2nd half of the year, over jacob hester?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when he gets 220+ carries, he'll rush for 1,000+ yards
Are willing to bet on that, and that he maintains a 6.8 yards per carry average like you harped all of last season?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:16 pm to TigerBait1127
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it was from a saints thread, not a JR thread
hey, dumbass, I'm talking about Maximus thread, not the JR thread I participated in that your attempting to make me look bad in, glad you posted it anybody can see I'm saying Favre just wanted out GB, which is what I was really saying.Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:17 pm to Tigercat
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You may think you know everything KW brings to the table because he runs a 4.4 40 with good size
he looked pretty good as a starter at the end of 2006. He brought consistency to an inconsistent running team
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:17 pm to Sammich
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Are willing to bet on that, and that he maintains a 6.8 yards per carry average like you harped all of last season?
our bet last year was for ypc
keiland DESTROYED hester
but you had a small moral victory after the MSU game when hester had him
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you "Earn" pt by being the better player
or at least that's how it should be
And you know more than Miles and Co........
Did Hester NOT get drafted in the NFL?
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you mean like 2006 when he was our starter for the 2nd half of the year, over jacob hester?
So you're saying that Hester couldn't have improved since this decision? That he couldn't have earned the starting postion? Did we compete for a NC in 2006?
Just stop..
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:18 pm to tubucoco
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glad you posted it anybody can see I'm saying Favre just wanted out GB, which is what I was really saying.
i know what you were trying to get at, but you said it the wrong way. It's just fun to have there. I had a SFP quote as a my line for a while
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:18 pm to TigerBait1127
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Did Steltz garner any awards in 2007? How about INTs. Go look..
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:19 pm to lsusteve1
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And you know more than Miles and Co........
the main person he is arguing thinks that Flynn>JR, so it goes both ways
and Miles definitely made a mistake at rb against kentucky
This post was edited on 8/9/08 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:20 pm to TigerBait1127
glad to know, you look up to your heroes.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:20 pm to Sammich
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Did Steltz garner any awards in 2007? How about INTs. Go look..
no doubt steltz was very good, but he is nowhere near as good as laron was in 2006
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:20 pm to TigerBait1127
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the main person he is arguing thinks that Flynn>JR, so it goes both ways
I'm not even arguing that JH is better than KW........I just think JH was our guy last year and he proved worthy. No need to knock JH because KW didn't get his carries.
All I'm saying....it worked out pretty good for LSU.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:21 pm to lsusteve1
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I'm not even arguing that JH is better than KW........I just think JH was our guy last year and he proved worthy. No need to knock JH because KW didn't get his carries.
All I'm saying....it worked out pretty good for LSU.
oh, i definitely agree with that. SFP gave Hester the credit earlier in this thread and explained why he was the starter
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:22 pm to lsusteve1
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And you know more than Miles and Co
i know to run charles scott and KW in the 2nd half against UK, and to bench flynn in the first half against arkie
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So you're saying that Hester couldn't have improved since this decision?
4.7 ypc to 4.9, and he didn't even get used in the passing game in 2007, which took away from his best strength
minimal improvement
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That he couldn't have earned the starting postion?
did you see keiland and scott running the ball last year?
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Did we compete for a NC in 2006?
did we have a much harder schedule than 2007? yes
did we get lucky at the end like 2007? no
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:22 pm to TigerBait1127
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SFP gave Hester the credit earlier in this thread
Must have missed that......
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no i think he's awesome because i've seen him run and do great things on the field
just like JR isn't better than flynn b/c he has more talent. he's better because he was a better QB. better decision maker. more accurate. turned the ball over less.
You are short changing the intricacies of the RB position. A QB can screw up the little things and still have the ball in his hands to make plays, and we as fans won't know any better. (And we don't have to know better, he is the leader of the offense and he is either leading us to points or not.)
An example: the Colts were very excited about Addai in their offense long before he started racking up yardage for them. And what were the reasons we heard? Because he does the little things, he picks up blocks well, he runs clean routes, and he catches the ball well out of the backfield.
JR was clearly a better QB than Flynn, but the flash and talent you can clearly see is not always the most important aspect to a players game. Not when that player is asked to block well and participate in the passing game.
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