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re: Les Miles question.........a simple up or down answer
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:05 pm to the LSUSaint
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:05 pm to the LSUSaint
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Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:08 pm to the crue
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17-9 & 8-8 is considered elite? wow, some standards you have
no just my standards...nationally the LSU football pragram is elite. what is funny to me is the word mediocre. I guess this is what i am setteling for, mediocre. You mean we have finished in the "middle" of the country in the past 5 years...even once? to finish where we have IS ELITE!!!
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:08 pm to The Ramp
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Heaven forbid I lose credibility with a Gloom-and-Doom fan. OMG! Cholly Mac was "fired" in 1979. Stovall got fired next. Arnsbarger was good for til 87 and then the bottom fell out.
The bottom fell out in 1989. TEN YEARS after Mac was gone. Are you seriously suggesting that letting Mac go caused a downfall TEN YEARS LATER? I know you're not that stupid because nobody is. If not, then why would you make such an idiotic claim?
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"Bad" is relative. Bitching about a coach is going anywhere sounds stupid to me.
If people didn't bitch, bad coaches would never be fired.
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OL...you think "we" have any power? and by "we", you mean YOU.
Thousands of fans do have power, even if no single one of them does. When a coach loses support across the spectrum of the fan base, he usually gets fired. The more support he has, the longer he stays. Supporting him keeps him here longer and hurts LSU. Idiots who say I support LSU and whoever is coaching at LSU are the problem that has always plagued this program. At truly elite programs, they support the program by getting rid of coaches who hurt it. At LSU, we help the idiot keep hurting our program. That's why they're elite and we're not.
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I'll agree he isn't worth the money but still is a good coach who needs to do better.
So, you're willing to settle for a "good" coach who isn't doing as well as he should? That's good enough for LSU in your mind? When is this mentality of mediocrity EVER going to die at LSU?
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I'll give him a couple of more years because he ain't going anywhere anyway
He might very well be gone at the end of next season. Of course, if people still keep kissing his arse for winning 7 or 8 games and losing half his SEC games, he won't be going anywhere.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:11 pm to Helmethead
quote:by who exactly??? we've beaten 1 top 25 team in the last two years...
wake up, we are well respected, we are feared, we are an elite top program. this attitude is obsurd.
That'll won't strike fear in anyone....
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:12 pm to The Ramp
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he's got two more years to straighten the ship
What was wrong with the ship when he got here?
This post was edited on 3/18/10 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:14 pm to TiegerTim
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by who exactly??? we've beaten 1 top 25 team in the last two years...
That'll won't strike fear in anyone....
every team LSU plays knows they better bring their best game or they will lose.
If you don't recognize that then your a fool
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:So I guess the two years JR spent under Miles and the three years Flynn spent under Miles did not involve any QB development... I guess RP did not develop into a QB that led the team in the SEC Champ game before he went mental. I guess all the QB's on the roster should have been ready made for SEC play by their High School coach since they have failed to win a championship as underclassmen and you are unwilling to give our coaches the time it takes to properly develop a QB and play at the highest level this side of the NFL.
The failure to recruit and develop a single QB in six years.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:15 pm to The Ramp
quote:i'm not bitching & moaning, i'm just responding to the poster saying we're an elite team, which is not the case looking at the last 2 years, imo.
he's only had two mediocre seasons with his own players. you guys act as if he had multiple losing seasons. he's got two more years to straighten the ship so there's no need to bitch and moan to the nth degree
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not singling you out
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:16 pm to TiegerTim
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by who exactly??? we've beaten 1 top 25 team in the last two years...
Three if you want to be precise.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:17 pm to Nuts4LSU
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The complete lack of development of players at practically all positions
the NFL disagrees
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The huge attrition rate leaving us with no line on either side of the ball
what?
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The failure to recruit and develop a single QB in six years.
we have our first junior QB since '07 this season.
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The creation of a mentality of mediocrity in which winning half the time and making excuses for the other half is an acceptable substitute for winning consistently.
This part is so full of fail i don't even know where to start.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:18 pm to danfraz
quote:like UF last year? Ole Miss def played lights out only to have Miles snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
every team LSU plays knows they better bring their best game or they will lose.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:19 pm to XbengalTiger
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So I guess the two years JR spent under Miles and the three years Flynn spent under Miles did not involve any QB development... I guess RP did not develop into a QB that led the team in the SEC Champ game before he went mental. I guess all the QB's on the roster should have been ready made for SEC play by their High School coach since they have failed to win a championship as underclassmen and you are unwilling to give our coaches the time it takes to properly develop a QB and play at the highest level this side of the NFL.
This
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:22 pm to The Ramp
quote:then why did you say the 1980s were the worse decade of LSU football???
Heaven forbid I lose credibility with a Gloom-and-Doom fan. OMG! Cholly Mac was "fired" in 1979. Stovall got fired next. Arnsbarger was good for til 87 and then the bottom fell out.
quote:good way to avoid answering the question...
"Bad" is relative.
quote:griping about someone thinking our coach is incompetent sounds stupid to me...
Bitching about a coach is going anywhere sounds stupid to me.
quote:i think the ones that do have the power to make a change hear the unrest of the LSU fanbase, and they don't want it to go back to like it was in the 90s....
LOL...you think "we" have any power? and by "we", you mean YOU.
quote:i'd rather just one more... if we don't start seeing a more prepared team this year, i think its time to for him to go...
I'll give him a couple of more years
quote:sadly, you are probably right...
he ain't going anywhere anyway
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:23 pm to Books
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like UF last year?
neither team played well
excuses would be "no flag thrown on a obvious off pass interference" changes some things in that game and JJ was overwhelmed by the moment IMO
cant think of another, def got Ole Miss best game, prob Bama at that point in the season, Washington's, Miss States...auburn the only opponent that didn't show up and they got run
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:26 pm to XbengalTiger
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you are unwilling to give our coaches the time it takes to properly develop a QB
Part of that is playcalling, for example - How hard is it to properly coach a QB on throwing a screen pass? Why can't our two best QBs on the roster (Lee and Jefferson) throw a simple screen pass effectivley when pretty much every other div-1a offense can execute a screen pass? I blame most of this on Crowton and his insane offense. The only thing I wish Miles would have done is can Crowton.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:27 pm to danfraz
quote:excuse for scoring three pts? UF played soft and still won. So much for your theory
neither team played well
excuses would be "no flag thrown on a obvious off pass interference" changes some things in that game and JJ was overwhelmed by the moment IMO
quote:wtf? you watch that game? LSU had so many chances thanks to stupid penalties by OM.
def got Ole Miss best game,
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:33 pm to Books
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excuse for scoring three pts?
where did I say that? was no excuse other than JJ looking like a deer in headlights
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So much for your theory
this ain't quantum physics man, just a opinion
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you watch that game
yeap, Ole Miss effort in that game was one of the best of their season
that is what we were talking about right? LSU getting teams best effort?
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:34 pm to danfraz
quote:come on man... you couldn't have watched the games the last two years...
every team LSU plays knows they better bring their best game or they will lose.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:34 pm to Helmethead
quote:name 1 person, tv network,etc that thinks lsu is an elite program right now.
nationally the LSU football pragram is elite
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:34 pm to geauxtigers94
quote:which three would that be?
Three if you want to be precise.
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