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re: LSU fans: quit comparing Lee to McCoy
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:32 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:32 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
Which wrong are you still needing me to point out for you?
he was right about what you quoted of him, which is why i was asking. All the SEC QB's threw less picks
2 had better defenses though
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 7:33 pm
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Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:33 pm to RobbBobb
Robbooby...
Wow. Of the million semen that could have impregnated your mom, you're the one that got through.
Wow. Of the million semen that could have impregnated your mom, you're the one that got through.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:35 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
That no other SEC QB had int problems, or that JLee was the most inexperienced QB of the group, or that McCoy bounced back from int problems in one yr, but Lee cant?
I never stated any of the crap you mentioned regarding no other SEC QB threw INTs, Lee can't get better, etc.
I said that we need him to be better because you need two capable QBs in the SEC.
You needed to state that so that no other posters make you look like an idiot.
Fess up.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:36 pm to True Bengal
well, to be fair, the smartest part of him ran down his mothers leg more than likely.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:39 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
Colt McCoy had one of the best seasons for a freshman QB ever, then had a slightly down sophomore year, and a very good junior year. Lee had a pretty bad freshman year.
Whoever does that is to be ignored.
McCoy is better than Lee at any point in their careers. Since we are judging Lee, a freshman, the only way to draw an accurate comparison is vs. McCoy as a freshman.
McCoy had a good season in his 1st.
Lee's was a train wreck.
/thread
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:41 pm to Roaad
why are people comparing lee to McCoy?
they are NOTHING alike.
AT ALL.
they are NOTHING alike.
AT ALL.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:41 pm to TheDoc
They are both white boys from texas. There's a good start. 
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:42 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
All the SEC QB's threw less picks
Based on per games stats, he was wrong
Smelley = 1.5
McCoy = 1.4
Lee = 1.4
Dick = 1.3
Snead = 1.0
All with more experience than Lee
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:45 pm to Roaad
the year mccoy threw 18 picks.. he also threw for 3300 yards and 22 td's and still had the number 24 qb efficiency in the country...
last season jarrett lee threw for 1873 yards 13 tds and 16 ints.... qb efficiency was number 83 in the nation
there really is no comparison here....
last season jarrett lee threw for 1873 yards 13 tds and 16 ints.... qb efficiency was number 83 in the nation
there really is no comparison here....
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:47 pm to RobbBobb
Robbboob...
Wow. I see that you're a little punk!
Show me a quote from where I said that All SEC QBs threw less INT's...the closest I said to that was ...
You can't stand behind your statements so your punk arse will post fake arse quotes about me.
The three QB's you listed all had more than 300 attempts while Lee accomplished his feat in 269 attempts.
Wow. I see that you're a little punk!
Show me a quote from where I said that All SEC QBs threw less INT's...the closest I said to that was ...
quote:
Many other QBs in the SEC played the same defenses that Lee did, yet they didn't throw as many Ints nor defensive TDs.
You can't stand behind your statements so your punk arse will post fake arse quotes about me.
The three QB's you listed all had more than 300 attempts while Lee accomplished his feat in 269 attempts.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:53 pm to tigeraj22
quote:
the year mccoy threw 18 picks.. he also threw for 3300 yards and 22 td's and still had the number 24 qb efficiency in the country...
last season jarrett lee threw for 1873 yards 13 tds and 16 ints.... qb efficiency was number 83 in the nation
there really is no comparison here....
also, McCoy can RUN and take a hit.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:07 pm to True Bengal
quote:
yet they didn't throw as many Ints
Smelley did (1.5 per game), Garcia had (1.1 per game), so combined S Car had 2 ints per game against the defenses that you said other QBs had no problems with. Dick was right behind (1.3 per game). You cant go by totals because they all didnt play the same number of games.
Also, the 2 Aub QBs had 14 (1.2 per game), but neither played as many games as Lee. Moo St had 12 (1 per game), and neither of their 2 QBs played as many games as Lee.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:10 pm to RobbBobb
Lee averaged 1.45 picks a game. So round that up to 1.5 and he's tied for 1st.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:19 pm to RobbBobb
Robbobby, you're a good spinmaster, but you're not that good.
When you do INTs/game instead of INTs/Attempts, it doesn't look as bad.
Good try, though. You must be one of the poll workers in Florida that counts the votes during elections.
Are you Jarrett Lee? A relative? Or just a girlfriend?
I'm using the QBs that you threw out to make your case...
Snead, 10 INTs in 327 attempts.
Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.
When you do INTs/game instead of INTs/Attempts, it doesn't look as bad.
Good try, though. You must be one of the poll workers in Florida that counts the votes during elections.
Are you Jarrett Lee? A relative? Or just a girlfriend?
I'm using the QBs that you threw out to make your case...
Snead, 10 INTs in 327 attempts.
Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:21 pm to True Bengal
quote:
Show me a quote from where I said that All SEC QBs threw less INT's
You can't stand behind your statements so your punk arse will post fake arse quotes about me.
quote:
Yes, the defenses in the SEC are tougher, but they weren't tougher just for Lee. They were tough for the other 10+ SEC QBs as well, yet they didn't serve up INTs at the same rate.
Want more
quote:
Make all the "inexperience" comments you want for Lee, but Jefferson had at least 1-1/2 years of less experience than Lee when he stepped on the field
So Lee having less experience than any of the other QBs with higher or close int % doesnt earn some sway with you, like JJ does?
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:23 pm to RobbBobb
Rate = INTs per Attempt.
JL has almost two years of experience/exposure at the college level compared to JJ and didn't fare as well.
I compared JL's experience level to JJ's. Not the rest of the SEC. DUMMY!
Did I lie?
JL has almost two years of experience/exposure at the college level compared to JJ and didn't fare as well.
I compared JL's experience level to JJ's. Not the rest of the SEC. DUMMY!
Did I lie?
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:29 pm to True Bengal
quote:
I compared JL's experience level to JJ's. Not the rest of the SEC. DUMMY!
And I compared JLees ints against SEC QBs with far more experience, yet JLee was throwing them at a greater rate than ALL those QBs, regardless of his lack of experience, according to you.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:34 pm to RobbBobb
Thanks for admitting that I compared Int rate. Not experience.
And again, I said "most" not "all". You went and pick the three QB's you thought were worse just to find that when you compared INTs and pick 6's you were wrong. Your bad. Not mine.
I said he had a bad year and to stop making excuses.
His INT's/Attempt were higher than anyone else's as well as the 7 returned for TD's.
Nothing was according to me. You were such a homer that you through experience in assuming that I implied that. I don't know if it had to do with color-blindness, fear, confusion, or what. I just stated what I saw as a fact.
Keep trying to twist my words to make your point. I think you've really exposed yourself, today.
And again, I said "most" not "all". You went and pick the three QB's you thought were worse just to find that when you compared INTs and pick 6's you were wrong. Your bad. Not mine.
I said he had a bad year and to stop making excuses.
His INT's/Attempt were higher than anyone else's as well as the 7 returned for TD's.
Nothing was according to me. You were such a homer that you through experience in assuming that I implied that. I don't know if it had to do with color-blindness, fear, confusion, or what. I just stated what I saw as a fact.
Keep trying to twist my words to make your point. I think you've really exposed yourself, today.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:59 pm to Elleshoe
quote:"Comparing??? Did you say "comparing"? I know Colt McCoy...J. Lee is no Colt McCoy.
LSU fans: quit comparing Lee to McCoy
They are both from Texas.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:16 pm to True Bengal
Are you bipolar?
I pointed out to you that other SEC QBs had close to 16 ints, and could have passed JLee had they played the same amount of games.
And as far as your nation comment:
Kevin Craft, UCLA 20
David Johnson, Tulsa 18
Chase Daniel, Missouri 18
Jimmy Clausen, N Dame 17
Far more recognizable, highly touted, and way more experienced QBs than JLee, did worse against NON-SEC defenses. So the only one thats been exposed, has been you for ragging on a freshman LSU QB as the "one QB standing out not only in the conference, but the nation for throwing INTs?"
Thats just pathetic.
quote:
How do you explain one QB standing out not only in the conference, but the nation for throwing INTs? Surely, the other SEC QBs should have had at least 16 picks as well.
I pointed out to you that other SEC QBs had close to 16 ints, and could have passed JLee had they played the same amount of games.
And as far as your nation comment:
Kevin Craft, UCLA 20
David Johnson, Tulsa 18
Chase Daniel, Missouri 18
Jimmy Clausen, N Dame 17
Far more recognizable, highly touted, and way more experienced QBs than JLee, did worse against NON-SEC defenses. So the only one thats been exposed, has been you for ragging on a freshman LSU QB as the "one QB standing out not only in the conference, but the nation for throwing INTs?"
Thats just pathetic.
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