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re: LSU's Resume vs. St John's Resume
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:02 pm to Golfer
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:02 pm to Golfer
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1. 2006 - making the SECT and MSU getting in as the #9 team
and if we get into the NCAA that year, smoke laval is the coach in 2007 instead of maineri .. then, who knows ? big lesson learned and smoke gets fired .. big lessons will be learned this season too ..
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:04 pm to DBG
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he super regionals were created to break up the SEC dominance of the mid to late 90's
you really believe that ?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:06 pm to TigahRag
People still think St. Johns kept LSU from making a run and going to Omaha?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:10 pm to Cajun Revolution
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People still think St. Johns kept LSU from making a run and going to Omaha?
I certainly didn't say that...
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:12 pm to Golfer
they took my saying that we could compete in a regional to mean we would make a run at omaha
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:12 pm to TigahRag
i do, though not just the SEC. the SEC and the ACC had a stranglehold on college baseball during that era
1996: 5/8 CWS teams from those 2 conferences
1997: 4/8(all SEC)
1998: 4/8
the NCAA wanted to expand, so a good way to knock off those conferences was to add another round and pair those conferences up
1996: 5/8 CWS teams from those 2 conferences
1997: 4/8(all SEC)
1998: 4/8
the NCAA wanted to expand, so a good way to knock off those conferences was to add another round and pair those conferences up
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:16 pm to DBG
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the NCAA wanted to expand, so a good way to knock off those conferences was to add another round and pair those conferences up
Well, LSU was sent west last year and there was a statement that it was "unfair" to LSU. Not sure what is more unfair, sending LSU to the UCLA regional or pairing SEC/ACC teams up?
Look, it seems like some folks will find a reason to gripe. LSU didn't deserve to be in the post season this year IMO, and I don't have a problem with them being overlooked here.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
im talking about pairing those teams up in super regionals, roger
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:19 pm to DBG
Gotcha.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
From SE Baseball twitter
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St. John's has 1 win vs a top 50 team. Won 1 of 3 at Georgia Tech. Went 1-6 v top 50. Why them over other bubble teams? about 3 hours ago
Posted on 5/30/11 at 4:04 pm to CerealKilla
From Baseball America
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LINK
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He also said LSU was docked for playing so many nonconference games at home, while St. John's got credit for playing 26 road games (going 11-15, including an early-season series win at SoCon tournament champ Georgia Southern and one win in three games at Georgia Tech). "For some of our committee members, that is a very, very important piece of the discussion because some of our committee members are faced with those same challenges, if you will," Weiser said. "The balancing argument to that is we shouldn't disadvantage those that are in the warmer climates or the locations that give them opportunities to play more home games. So it was a conscious discussion and decision, if you will, about what St. John's is faced with and what teams in the northern climate are faced with when it comes to playing road games."
Posted on 5/30/11 at 4:16 pm to CerealKilla
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That was certainly one of the more difficult discussions that we had," Weiser said. "Although we recognize the head-to-head competition, we also talked about the fact that LSU was tied for ninth in the SEC and tied for fifth in their division. We also talked about the fact that six of those 13 wins that LSU had were against the 11th and 12 place teams in the league. In the end, we were faced with a nonconference schedule that didn't provide for many road games. So when we don't have the information from a nonconference schedule—even though they played a Cal State Fullerton—the fact that we didn't have many road games as a committee, so we had to go back to the conference results, and we didn't think that was strong enough to warrant a selection this year."
Not enough road games? Penalize the programs who draw 10K per game in favor of cold weather teams who couldn't care less for college baseball.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 4:16 pm to DBG
the expanded to 64 teams .. you couldn't have eight 8 team double elimination regionals .. the supers were the only logical way to bring it from 16 to 8 teams for Omaha .. I don't think it was geared toward particular conferences ..
Posted on 5/30/11 at 4:26 pm to TigahRag
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the expanded to 64 teams .. you couldn't have eight 8 team double elimination regionals .. the supers were the only logical way to bring it from 16 to 8 teams for Omaha .. I don't think it was geared toward particular conferences ..
Cold weather conferences whose teams who are forced to take road trips are taken into account in the decision while warm weather teams who draw crowds are penalized.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 5:47 pm to CerealKilla
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In the end, we were faced with a nonconference schedule that didn't provide for many road games. So when we don't have the information from a nonconference schedule—even though they played a Cal State Fullerton—the fact that we didn't have many road games as a committee, so we had to go back to the conference results, and we didn't think that was strong enough to warrant a selection this year."
They choose LSU every year basically because of the $ package and bid that we make to host.....yet penalize LSU for not scheduling more away games and saying the Northern teams are at a disadvantage.
Huh
Sooooo........PM needs to make a cold-weather trip to Minnesota and UConn and not schedule these damn teams to come here and help there cause.
Did LSU deserve to be in the tournament based on PAST history and selections? Yes
Am I disappointed? Yes
Nothing the Committee will say will make it better because it's just BS......IMO, LSU winning a few of those 1 run ballgames would have fixed this.
Now PM needs to make some changes and get LSU back to where it needs to be.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 5:55 pm to lsusteve1
past years and "reputation" have nothing to do with the selection year to year or USC would be in every tourney ..
Posted on 5/30/11 at 6:00 pm to TigahRag
I'm coming to terms. We had a bad conferece record and didn't make the conference tournament. I would just like the committee to come out say that is the only reason we were left out. Don't tell me we don't have too few OOC road games. That basically is penalizing programs who draw 10K per game.
We gave the committee the ammo to frick us.
We gave the committee the ammo to frick us.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 6:01 pm to TigahRag
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past years and "reputation" have nothing to do with the selection year to year or USC would be in every tourney ..
Not being able to define what criteria is the problem I have.....
WE get it....you don't think LSU deserved a bid
But based on EVERYthing presented....IMO...they did.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 6:05 pm to CerealKilla
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I'm coming to terms. We had a bad conferece record and didn't make the conference tournament. I would just like the committee to come out say that is the only reason we were left out. Don't tell me we don't have too few OOC road games. That basically is penalizing programs who draw 10K per game.
We gave the committee the ammo to frick us.
This.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 6:15 pm to lsusteve1
NO.WE.DIDN'T. .. we went 13-17 and finished 9th in the SEC .. didn't make our conference tourney .. went 8-11 on the road .. 4-11 on the road in the SEC .. 11 of our 36 wins came against Wake Forest .. Princeton .. Holy Cross .. Nicholls State .. Miss Valley ..UNO .. and Saint Mary's at home .. 6 of our 13 SEC wins came at home vs. 11th and 12th SEC teams .. a resume of champions ! you're right !
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