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re: Miles on lineup
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:12 pm to ForeLSU
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:12 pm to ForeLSU
quote:I've attended scrimmages last season and this season (gridiron club). I've attended the spring game. Based on what i've seen, Ford is better than both Ridley (who does not impress me) and Murphy (who is not an "in between the tackles" running back). It is not like Ridley and Murphy have a huge body of work where they are producing in actual games. Ridley started only a couple of games and Murphy only got a few carries per game in his career and then was hurt last year. Ford appears to me to have that "something" that you look for in a running back. I think he could be special.
how have you formed this opinion?
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Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:13 pm to ForeLSU
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how have you formed this opinion?
Judging by his earlier answers, I can surmise that his opinion is based on more crack cocaine consumption than actual critical thought. Say 10 to 1 crack vs. thought ratio. Or is that being a tad too generous???
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:16 pm to jlsutiger
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t is not like Ridley and Murphy have a huge body of work where they are producing in actual games. Ridley started only a couple of games and Murphy only got a few carries per game in his career and then was hurt last year.
Fine, but what does this have to do with the discussion at hand??? Ford's body of work compared to Murphy and Ridley is exactly WHAT??? If none of the back have a 'body of work' to bring to the table, then why is it a factor?
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:17 pm to rosiebean
I think all of you cry baby suck tits are a bunch of know nothing Mad Hatter hatin punks. The cream will always rise to the top. And especially on defense many youngsters get to play. It has always been like that for Les. 
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:23 pm to rosiebean
quote:he asked me how I formed my opinion that Ford is the best back on the team, insinuating that I haven't seen enough of him to form the opinion that he is better than Ridley or Murphy. Since none of the backs have a huge body of work in actual games, my opinion is based on my watching of the scrimmages and the spring game. Got it?
Fine, but what does this have to do with the discussion at hand??? Ford's body of work compared to Murphy and Ridley is exactly WHAT??? If none of the back have a 'body of work' to bring to the table, then why is it a factor?
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:28 pm to flyintiger23
And one more thing, if what most of you know about the coach and his knowledge and football in general were turned into gasoline you wouldnt have enough gas to run an ant motorcycle around the inside of a cherrio. Now I will go back to drinking my koolaide.
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:30 pm to jlsutiger
When Ford learns the playbook and LEARNS to pick up the blitz, he will play. Until than he will only get a couple of carries.
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:30 pm to jlsutiger
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he asked me how I formed my opinion that Ford is the best back on the team, insinuating that I haven't seen enough of him to form the opinion that he is better than Ridley or Murphy.
it's fine to have an opinion, from what I can tell Ford probably is more talented than the others...from reports I've heard, some think Ware is the most talented on the team. The issue most folks have with you is your utter outrage at how the coaching staff is making an obvious, catastrophic mistake by going with Ridley and Murphy to start out. It looks like you just go with the opposite of whatever the staff's decision is just so you can be outraged.
Experience does matter, and it's quite probable that the staff wants to see how Ford reacts to the big stage before handing the job to him. It's also possible, as a young player, that he's struggled with some assignments...or maybe he's developed an attitude because he hasn't won the position outright...who knows. Just let it play out
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:30 pm to jlsutiger
I'm sure everyone wants the best running back in the game and totin' the rock, but the spring game is not anything like playing in the SEC. Nor is playing on national TV with Gameday hype and 70,000 fans. Let's just let it all play out.
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:34 pm to jlsutiger
quote:
I've attended scrimmages last season and this season (gridiron club). I've attended the spring game. Based on what i've seen, Ford is better than both Ridley (who does not impress me) and Murphy (who is not an "in between the tackles" running back).
Ford will get his touches and I agree he is going to be a very good runner. However, I've attended some scrimmages myself and it appeared to me that Ford was not picking up the right person to block and could possibly get our QB killed. I think Ford will be a stud but I don't think Murphy and Ridley are punks that can't get the job done. Murphy and Ridley seem to know who to block and where to go when the ball is snapped. I think we will see Ford being used in obvious running plays around game 5 or 6.
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:41 pm to ForeLSU
quote:No, it's just that I have no faith in this staff to make the right decision based on Les' history. I explained my opinion on Ford and how I came to that. My fear is that Miles may be wasting another freakishly talented offensive player (FORD) just like in previous years. What the coaching staff did with Shepard last year was a travesty. They also failed to utilize Randle until it was much too late.(11 total catches all year).
The issue most folks have with you is your utter outrage at how the coaching staff is making an obvious, catastrophic mistake by going with Ridley and Murphy to start out. It looks like you just go with the opposite of whatever the staff's decision is just so you can be outraged.
Look at the history with how they handled Keiland and Scott in 2006 by not letting them get ANY significant carries despite a putrid running game until it was too late. That year, LSU had already lost 2 games and any chance at national and SEC title before either of those guys began to get significant carries later in the year. As it turned out, Keiland and Scott were clearly our best 2 backs that year, yet it took NINE games for Les to give Keiland major carries. When he did, our run game exploded. I don't want to have to lose 2-3 games while ramming Murphy up the middle for no gain before Les realizes that Ford can spark our running game.
This post was edited on 8/30/10 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:48 pm to jlsutiger
quote:
I explained my opinion on Ford and how I came to that. My fear is that Miles may be wasting another freakishly talented offensive player (FORD) just like in previous years.
so you don't buy other fans saying he has been prone to miss assignments, and needs a little time to fully develop into a more complete back?
Posted on 8/30/10 at 10:59 pm to ForeLSU
quote:well that appears to be a worrisome trend with Les Miles and young offensive studs. Apparently Shepard didn't know assignments so he couldn't play, and I'm sure Scott and Williams didn't know assignments early and now you say maybe Ford doesn't know assignments despite being on campus over a year. Either Les and staff aren't preparing these guys quickly enough, or more than likely, Les is HESITANT to play the freshman offensive skill position guys just because they are young and older guys paid their dues.
so you don't buy other fans saying he has been prone to miss assignments, and needs a little time to fully develop into a more complete back?
You don't see other major college programs NOT playing freshman studs like LSU does b/c "they don't know assignments". Look at programs across the country who have freshman stud WRs and RBs. AJ Green and Julio Jones started from day 1. Look at Adrian Peterson, McFadden etc. etc. etc. There are hundreds of examples of IMPACT freshman at offensive skill positions around the country. Why can't LSU's freakishly talented young offensive players get significan playing time and make significant contributions? Why are they "not prepared"?
This post was edited on 8/30/10 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:03 pm to jlsutiger
quote:
Look at programs across the country who have freshman stud WRs and RBs. AJ Green and Julio Jones started from day 1. Look at Adrian Peterson, McFadden etc. etc. etc. There are hundreds of examples of IMPACT freshman at offensive skill positions around the country. Why can't LSU's freakishly talented young offensive players get significan playing time and make significant contributions? Why are they "not prepared"?
Who did those players have in front of them? I'll answer that for you.....nobody. Since you obviously think this has been an on-going issue under Miles....name me a few freshmen that should've started over the players in front them and didn't.
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:15 pm to Choctaw
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name me a few freshmen that should've started over the players in front them and didn't.
It's amazing to me that you keep asking this exact question and continue to get the same response:
Response = No response at all!
Why; because this is the second most stupid anti-Miles myth on the rant. Second only to the won with Saban's players crap...
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:22 pm to SouthernMan
quote:
It's amazing to me that you keep asking this exact question and continue to get the same response:
Response = No response at all!
bingo
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:23 pm to SouthernMan
quote:true.
Why; because this is the second most stupid anti-Miles myth on the rant.
quote:Well. . .that one was kind of true.
Second only to the won with Saban's players crap...
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:25 pm to Choctaw
quote:You are right, NOBODY execpt LSU has depth. Great national programs like Oklahoma for example had zero upperclassmen at running back so they HAD to start Adrian Peterson. Bama and Georgia are so terrible and couldn't recruit any WRs that Green and Jones were their only options at WR, huh? USC NEVER has impact offensive freshman play b/c they have too much depth. Neither does Ohio State, or Florida. Oh wait...WRONG. That is a completely ridiculous argument. EVERY major program has depth at most positions and have upperclassmen ahead of talented incoming freshman, yet most of those schools plays those freakishly talented freshman that and you hear about each week. Just not at LSU.
Who did those players have in front of them? I'll answer that for you.....nobody.
quote:Hell, just from last year, Randle should have started over Chris Mitchell and RJ Jackson as 3rd WR. FACT. (instead he had 11 catches all year and didn't get lots of time until late season). Shepard should have recieved more touches than just about anybody on the team last year. He was our most explosive weapon in a putrid offense. FACT. In 2006, Scott and Keiland should have been starting backs long before the NINTH game of the season. The running game with Vincent/Broussard was atrocious that year until we lost 2 games and the freshman took over late in the season. FACT. These are examples of stud offensive players in the last few years that Les did not allow to play right away.
name me a few freshmen that should've started over the players in front them and didn't
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:33 pm to jlsutiger
quote:Like Murphy and Lee in the years before Ford and Mingo took over as spring game stars. So if we're going by spring game, the depth chart at RB should be Murphy, based on multiple examples of spring game greatness compared to Ford's one. Also, I seem to recall Ridley having quite a good showing in the spring game...but what do I know? I just watched it on TV a few times.
Michael Ford is a complete stud. He was one of the lone bright spots in the spring game
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:37 pm to choupic
quote:Now I'm pumped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loston
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