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re: My take on the LSU offense so far
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:19 pm to Smoke Green
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:19 pm to Smoke Green
specs1 your wrong JJ stated that Vandy shut down the long ball. The announcers stated that vandy dropped their coverage to prevent the long pass.
JJ said we took what they gave us.
They let him throw long in the chick bowl,
and against washington.
moreover it was pouring rain.
I get sick of you, BT, and Robbob constatntly berrating JJ. Jl has not had one game as good as any game JJ had . What is your motive?
JJ said we took what they gave us.
They let him throw long in the chick bowl,
and against washington.
moreover it was pouring rain.
I get sick of you, BT, and Robbob constatntly berrating JJ. Jl has not had one game as good as any game JJ had . What is your motive?
This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 9:21 pm
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Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:20 pm to specs1
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That makes them stupid and ignorant of the facts.
because they don't think lee played well?
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Yes I know there were mistakes and ints.
nah man. 16 INT's in 8 games starting isn't a whole lot, you're right.
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However, there were many many impressive stats.
you mean the yards he threw for?
a lot of those came when LSU HAD to throw downfield because they were behind so bad because of lee's mistakes.
to say lee had a "impressive" season is beyond delirious
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:21 pm to Tomm
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I think more downfield throws will occur if the OL decides to actually block somebody who is pass rushing. I give the OL a D- so far on pass blocking and not much more than a C on run blocking.
Was discussing that w/ the gentleman sitting next to me. He was acually a recruiting scout and really new the game and players. But in Miles post game press conference he commented about the o-line playing very well.
So, I don't know.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:21 pm to gotygers
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What is your motive?
they are literally 5 posters out of THOUSANDS who think the way they do.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:22 pm to specs1
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But in Miles post game press conference he commented about the o-line playing very well.
in your opinion, do you think the O-line has played "well" in the past two games?
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:23 pm to TheDoc
Doc as usual I agree with you!
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:23 pm to gotygers
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JJ stated that Vandy shut down the long ball. The announcers stated that vandy dropped their coverage to prevent the long pass.
JJ said we took what they gave us.
the execution on JJ's 5-7 step drops was really off
he made some decent reads and threw into some singl coverages, BUT the coverage was great
then, he overthrew mitchell and dickson HORRIBLY
thank goodness they called the holding against vandy when he overthrew dickson
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:25 pm to specs1
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But in Miles post game press conference he commented about the o-line playing very well.
That is the typical coach "pump up an underperforming unit" deal. The OL has been the weakest unit (by far) on the entire team. The backfield, the receivers, DL, LBer, secondary, PK, and coverage units have all been good/decent. OK, I did just think about the punter Helton and the long snapper. Anyway, the OL has neither opened up holes consistently on the run nor has pass blocked well. That does not quality as "good" IMO.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:26 pm to gotygers
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I get sick of you, BT, and Robbob constatntly berrating JJ. Jl has not had one game as good as any game JJ had . What is your motive?
You are an idiot. Further, I could less who or what your are tired of, and I pretty sure BT and Robbob agree w/ me on that.
And for the record, I am also a fan of Jefferson. There are things I think he does very well. I believe each of the guys at the qb position have some different strengths that they bring to the table.
Sickos like you want someone to blame for last year and have unfairly blackballed Lee for your own personal satisfaction. That makes you a loser.
This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:26 pm to Tomm
More than anything I think they learned from the mistakes of letting lee throw last year. I believe they want to build up jj's confidence. We all know what can happen when a young qb loses confidence. I expect the downfield stuff to come gradually over the course of the year. No need to air it out in the first game of the year or in the rain against vandy.
If they let jj grow his confidence over the next few games I think he will be ready to roll come Georgia and Fla.
If they let jj grow his confidence over the next few games I think he will be ready to roll come Georgia and Fla.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:27 pm to Tomm
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the OL has neither opened up holes consistently on the run nor has pass blocked well.
the o-line will continue to struggle until the tigers can make them respect the vertical passing game
even if you don't call the plays, you have to give the illusion you will call them, and execute them when called...something they haven't done yet
and there is nothing they are going to do the next two weeks to make UGA repsect it
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:28 pm to Tomm
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That is the typical coach "pump up an underperforming unit" deal. The OL has been the weakest unit (by far) on the entire team. The backfield, the receivers, DL, LBer, secondary, PK, and coverage units have all been good/decent. OK, I did just think about the punter Helton and the long snapper. Anyway, the OL has neither opened up holes consistently on the run nor has pass blocked well. That does not quality as "good" IMO.
any logical thinking observer of the last two games would agree with you.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:28 pm to hobo with a rolex
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I think he will be ready to roll come Georgia and Fla
Well I'm going to GA. Would love nothing more than to see a beatdown of the dawgs.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:28 pm to hobo with a rolex
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More than anything I think they learned from the mistakes of letting lee throw last year. I believe they want to build up jj's confidence. We all know what can happen when a young qb loses confidence. I expect the downfield stuff to come gradually over the course of the year. No need to air it out in the first game of the year or in the rain against vandy.
If they let jj grow his confidence over the next few games I think he will be ready to roll come Georgia and Fla.
quality post
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:30 pm to LSUfan4444
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the execution on JJ's 5-7 step drops was really off
he made some decent reads and threw into some singl coverages, BUT the coverage was great
then, he overthrew mitchell and dickson HORRIBLY
agree with all of that.
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thank goodness they called the holding against vandy when he overthrew dickson
you mean when they altered dicksons route with the holding?
that play?
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:31 pm to LSUfan4444
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the o-line will continue to struggle until the tigers can make them respect the vertical passing game even if you don't call the plays, you have to give the illusion you will call them, and execute them when called...something they haven't done yet and there is nothing they are going to do the next two weeks to make UGA repsect it
Then we have a chicken and egg situation then. Because LSU will not be able to throw long passes until the OL decides to actually block pass rushers. I was at the Washington game and watched the Vandy game. In both games, the OL performed poorly. They weren't rushing 6 or 7 guys on defense...they simply couldn't block 4 or 5 pass rushers. You can't throw long against that. What you can do is to call a screen pass which will make those rushers a little less aggressive next time.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:32 pm to TheDoc
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you mean when they altered dicksons route with the holding?
that play?
yes, that play
dickson being held had nothing to do with how late the ball was thrown and the safety being over in time to defend the play
dickson being held did have something to do with where he would have been in relation to the ball....we know where the safety would have been b/c he was already there
seriously, save some dignity and don't argue that play. it wasn't a good pass, just leave it alone
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:33 pm to specs1
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Sickos like you want someone to blame for last year and have unfairly blackballed Lee for your own personal satisfaction. That makes you a loser.
I don't solely blame J lee for the less than stellar year.
I mainly blame the defense.
but jarrett lee's mistakes sure didn't help matters
although, I think it was a combination of lee not being 100% ready to take the job, and crowton calling WAY too aggressive plays for the young guy to handle.
lee made terrible decisions under pressure, and made some good ones as well.
he is 2nd string at this point, and if his number is called to lead the team, I wish him nothing but success
but I don't stick my head in the sand like some on here and deny that last year was a bad year at the QB spot.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:34 pm to Tomm
Anyone who thinks the LSU offensive line has played well is probably a big fan of Jarrett Lee.
Because if JJ continues to receive the shoddy protection he has thus far, then he'll have to continue to run for his life. And then the odds are that he'll probably get hurt.
And then it'll be Jarrett Lee to the rescue.
Which means there will be about five or six "fans" on this board creaming themselves silly.
Because if JJ continues to receive the shoddy protection he has thus far, then he'll have to continue to run for his life. And then the odds are that he'll probably get hurt.
And then it'll be Jarrett Lee to the rescue.
Which means there will be about five or six "fans" on this board creaming themselves silly.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:34 pm to Tomm
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Because LSU will not be able to throw long passes until the OL decides to actually block pass rushers.
PERIOD
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