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re: Nov. 6th 2011: Miles Is A Genius. Jan 10th 2012: Miles is Stupid Saban Is a God
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:01 am to Cap Crunch
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:01 am to Cap Crunch
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I'm just saying we wouldn't have won the first Bama game without Jefferson.
for how bad JJ is at QB and for how much i don't like him, i do agree
but he was only really successful running a certain package/play, and that was shut down monday night
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:01 am to Cap Crunch
Oh give it up. He was the SEC leader in efficiency and he goes out after one play? Holy frick, man.
No matter how you look at it, Miles went into that game in November looking for reasons to pull his actual starter.
No matter how you look at it, Miles went into that game in November looking for reasons to pull his actual starter.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:04 am to Doc Fenton
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Oh give it up. He was the SEC leader in efficiency and he goes out after one play?
It was two plays. Before the 2nd interception, we were trying to run the same 2 QB offense we had run since the Kentucky game. And once he had turned the ball over twice, it was clear we needed JJ to win that game. You're an idiot if you can't see that.
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No matter how you look at it, Miles went into that game in November looking for reasons to pull his actual starter.
And this is just fricking stupid.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:04 am to Cap Crunch
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Believe it or not, there are posters on here claiming this.
Funny how none of them will suggest who they might take as a replacement. Not that it matters cause Miles will be with us for a very long time. Might as well quit hating life and enjoy the winningest coach in LSU history. As far as college football programs go, it ain't gonna get much better than LSU under Miles.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:05 am to Doc Fenton
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Oh give it up. He was the SEC leader in efficiency and he goes out after one play? Holy frick, man.
No matter how you look at it, Miles went into that game in November looking for reasons to pull his actual starter.
Yep. Stubbornness and attachment to his original and natural offensive philosophy and just flat out poor judgment on Miles' part.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:06 am to Cap Crunch
Agreed,But did Miles really believe Saban would not adjust for that? At the very least he should have made a change at half time down by 6.Whenever the opposing teams cornerbacks are tackling your RB's at the line of scrimmage that should be a pretty good indication.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:06 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Lots of fans were disillusioned into thinking LSU was heads and shoulders above Bama after the Nov. 6th. I'm diehard but I have to admit to myself that Bama probably outplayed us in Nov. A fortutios call, a couple of missed FG, and one momentary lapse of focus by Bama in OT delivered the W. That game could have very easily gone the other way. It was a great season and Miles deserves alot of credit.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:06 am to Purple Spoon
Not for JJ personally but was happy for the team when he was suspended and gutted immediately upon hearing of his return. Lee's performance against UK showed he knew his gig was about up.
Many of us here were in touch and it has nothing to do w/ monday qbing or 20/20 retrospect.
Many of us here were in touch and it has nothing to do w/ monday qbing or 20/20 retrospect.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:06 am to Cap Crunch
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Before the 2nd interception, we were trying to run the same 2 QB offense we had run since the Kentucky game.
No we weren't! JJ had never been in for that many drives in a row except late in the game against Tennessee.
EDIT: Auburn -- 2 in the 2Q; 1 in the 4Q LINK
Tenn - 1 in the 2Q; 3 late in the 3&4Q LINK
Fla. - 1 in 2Q; 1 in 3Q; 1 in 4Q LINK
Ky. - 1 in 3Q LINK
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:07 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:Then why revert back to JJ as starting QB when it was very obvious after the SEC CG that our offense regressed under JJ helm. Like it or not Miles and you sunshine pumpers failed to recognize of mediocre our offense became, instead you credited piss poor qb play with exceptional play when it was special teams and defense that led to points.
This ain't pee wee football.
Going forward Les Miles needs to stay as far away from input into the QB status, the last four years have been terrible at that position. Hell Kragthorpe could not help superman.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:08 am to dudeilovebeer
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Lots of fans were disillusioned into thinking LSU was heads and shoulders above Bama after the Nov. 6th
I think a lot of players thought that too, and that's why they got beaten so badly the other night.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:09 am to dudeilovebeer
It should be pointed out that the only teams Alabama played against that scored LESS than 6 points were North Texas & Vanderbilt.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:09 am to Doc Fenton
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No we weren't! JJ had never been in for that many drives in a row except in the 4th quarter.
How many straight drives did he play? 2? And one of those was the only real drive we had in the game.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:10 am to LSU91MBA
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So you praise their coaching and bemoan ours? Makes no sense dude.
What are you saying here? Are you actually implying that Saban and Miles fought to a coaching draw last week?
It is clear as a sunny day that Miles & Stud were coach raped by Saban. You just have your head in the sand if you think otherwise.
I'm going to give you credit and say that you don't actually think otherwise. You are just fronting because of your love for LSU, and that is admirable.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:15 am to Cap Crunch
He did 2 to close the 1H, then a 3rd to start the 2H, by which time Lee was totally cold and out of rhythm.
LSU finished regulation with only 222 yards, only 93 of which came in the 2nd half. And this is when JJ caught Bama somewhat by surprise with the option, which was Miles's only saving grace on offense that game. To go into a second game against Bama expecting better results with a game plan built around JJ was plain nuts.
LSU finished regulation with only 222 yards, only 93 of which came in the 2nd half. And this is when JJ caught Bama somewhat by surprise with the option, which was Miles's only saving grace on offense that game. To go into a second game against Bama expecting better results with a game plan built around JJ was plain nuts.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:17 am to Cap Crunch
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I think a lot of players thought that too, and that's why they got beaten so badly the other night.
Well, a really shitty game plan had a lot to do with it.
We have a stable of awesome RBs. Hilliard was the one with the most carries and he had 5. Ware had 3. Ford had 4. Blue had 0.
JJ ran the ball 15 times.
I am going to venture a wild guess and say that one of the reasons our RBs had such a hard time on the few occasions that they got the ball was because Saban had absolutely no fear of JJ throwing the ball. None.
Yet one of the reasons Miles did not let Lee take a snap is because he believed JJ's feet gave us the best opportunity to win. And he apparently believed this all the way through the game.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:17 am to Doc Fenton
IIRC Lee started the 2nd half, and threw the 2nd interception on the first play.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:19 am to Doc Fenton
Everyone has their opinions on this subject,as do I.Personally I think it would have been beneficial to give Mett as much playing time as possible when JJ was out.This would have given Miles another viable option,just my HO.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:19 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Truth is that Miles didn't outcoach Saban in the first game. Saban outcoached himself and Miles did nothing but play so conservatively that it didn't cost LSU the game.
Saban was overaggressive and tried the FGs and cost his team the game. Our defense and Chavis won that game, not Miles' coaching.
Saban was overaggressive and tried the FGs and cost his team the game. Our defense and Chavis won that game, not Miles' coaching.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:24 am to FightinTiga
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I think it would have been beneficial to give Mett as much playing time as possible when JJ was out.This would have given Miles another viable option,just my HO.
Didn't you hear Miles? JJ's feet give us another option.
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