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re: Problems at Left Guard?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:29 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:29 am to thunderbird1100
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If you truly cant admit a 3rd team walk on giving up a sack is not noteworthy vs. a guy like Charles, Lewis or Cushenberry who are DEFINITIVE starters...then, well, I dont know what to tell you. Other than you're clearly just being an idiot.
He just can't admit his utter failure here.
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:30 am to thunderbird1100
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If you truly cant admit a 3rd team walk on giving up a sack is not noteworthy vs. a guy like Charles, Lewis or Cushenberry who are DEFINITIVE starters...then, well, I dont know what to tell you. Other than you're clearly just being an idiot.
Was it a 3rd string walk on or was it Kardell Thomas?
You're taking the extreme opposite of my opinion and then calling me stupid for being too extreme. It's quite funny.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:30 am to RB10
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Do you have any evidence that this is incorrect? If not, it's not really that dumb, is it?
Given that you, me, nobody on here has that information, the person drawing a conclusion from it is truly the dumb one here, and that's you.
Keep in mind, I'm just saying drawing a conclusion based on vague information is dumb, which you are arguing it doesnt matter if the information is vague.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:30 am to RB10
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I'm just going to bookmark this thread for later in the season.
Cant wait
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He just can't admit his utter failure here.
My opinion is the offensive line is continuing to struggle. No one can prove that opinion wrong.
That's the exact opposite of failure.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:31 am to thunderbird1100
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which you are arguing it doesnt matter if the information is vague.
Yep.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:32 am to thunderbird1100
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Keep in mind, I'm just saying drawing a conclusion based on vague information is dumb, which you are arguing it doesnt matter if the information is vague
Well, that's your opinion. There's more info out there than just scrimmage stats. You just have to be willing to dig to find it.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:32 am to RB10
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Was it a 3rd string walk on or was it Kardell Thomas?
WE DONT KNOW, that's kind of the point
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You're taking the extreme opposite of my opinion and then calling me stupid for being too extreme. It's quite funny.
No, I'm literally saying a drawing a conclusion for vauge information is stupid, you're the one drawing any conclusion. The extreme opposite opinion would be "Oh my god, the OL will be great this seaosn based on the scrimmage". I didn't say that. I'm saying drawing any opinion on the starting OL from "5 sacks given up" without any further context is taking extreme liberal use of deductive reasoning.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:33 am to RB10
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My opinion is the offensive line is continuing to struggle. No one can prove that opinion wrong.
You cant prove yourself right either
Still doesn't get it
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:34 am to RB10
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My opinion is the offensive line is continuing to struggle
That's not your only opinion
You've argued against any possible improvement based on things we know, and those things habe a high probability of showing squad improvement
You can't get past last years spotty play and some vague stat out of context which means absolutely nothing
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:34 am to thunderbird1100
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I didn't say that. I'm saying drawing any opinion on the starting OL from "5 sacks given up" without any further context is taking extreme liberal use of deductive reasoning.
Why do you keep repeating this like it's true? We have an entire years worth of context on this offensive line. Just because you refuse to use it doesn't mean it's not there.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That's not your only opinion
You've argued against any possible improvement based on things we know, and those things habe a high probability of showing squad improvement
Have I? I'm sure you can link where I said it's impossible for them to get better.
I'll wait.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:35 am to thunderbird1100
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You cant prove yourself right either
Still doesn't get it
Hence the reason I call it my opinion, and not a fact.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:36 am to RB10
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Last in the SEC in sacks allowed in 2018. More trouble protecting the quarterback to start off fall camp in 2019.
"Context"
What was this camp "context?"
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:36 am to RB10
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Well, that's your opinion. There's more info out there than just scrimmage stats. You just have to be willing to dig to find it.
"The QBs went 15 for 40, 247 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT at the scrimmage"
-Your conclusion-
"Damn our Qbs all suck!"
But what if Brennan went 8 for 13, 160 yards, 1 TD (unknown INT) and the other QBs went 7 for 27, 87 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.
This is my point, we kind of dont give a shite what a 3rd team OL did, when given a stat of "we gave up 5 sacks" and that's it, we cant draw any logical conclusions about the supposed guys that may actually start.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:36 am to RB10
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Have I
Yes
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:37 am to RB10
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So we’re ignoring the numbers from the scrimmage
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:37 am to thunderbird1100
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"The QBs went 15 for 40, 247 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT at the scrimmage"
-Your conclusion-
"Damn our Qbs all suck!"
Is that my conclusion? Are we ignoring last year's data, because I know for a fact that Joe Burrow doesn't "suck".
I don't know for a fact that the offensive line isn't going to suck again.
Subtle differences there.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:37 am to RB10
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We have an entire years worth of context on this offensive line.
from LAST season, which while somewhat relevant, isn't as relevant to now as it was last season. Guys improve, positions change, etc...
Your original conclusion was that because we gave up 5 sacks in a scrimmage the OL still sucks. You keep repeating about last year when that was never even in your original argument. You based your opinion that OL still sucks based on a very limited amount of information from what just happened this past weekend.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes
This is where you provide that link that I asked for. Should be easy for you.
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