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Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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so that answers my question
Oh, you mean the question that was based on your skewed version of reality? Yes, it did. Unfortunately, you probably think that this proves some point of yours, despite the mountain of evidence otherwise.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:26 am to DrEdgeLSU
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Oh, you mean the question that was based on your skewed version of reality?
no it was straight-forward
how many big (30+ yard) returns against BCS opponents
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despite the mountain of evidence otherwise.
i never said he wasn't a good kick returner
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
What you implied was that he wasn't a good punt returner against upper-tier competition. What these claims have stated is that after 2 years of establishing himself as a kickoff return threat, teams opted to kick away from him rather than risk him taking a punt back for a TD.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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no it was straight-forward
You didn't respond to the fact that you called him a "near full-time punt returner" for 2.5 years, despite the fact that in 2007 he had ONE punt return, and he has shared punt return duties the whole time.
THEN, you acted like it was impossible to believe that teams weren't intentionally kicking away from him.
THEN, you acted like not having a big return against a good school meant that he was not good. That was the implication, and it was obvious to anyone who is reading this thread.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:35 am to chilge1
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What you implied was that he wasn't a good punt returner against upper-tier competition.
In addition to the false pretense that he was the full-time punt returner.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:36 am to DrEdgeLSU
I thought SlowPro was kicked off the rant for FLAMING yesterday...might have to ask CHICKEN about this....
Posted on 11/6/09 at 9:42 am to stephendomalley
Was looking at some stats and noticed that we have not returned a punt against UF since 2006.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:13 am to DrEdgeLSU
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DrEdgeLSU
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:18 am to Tiger_n_ATL
this is awesome seeing slowflopro getting shut down.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:43 am to Washingtontigerlee
I'm glad it's you not being shut down again w&l.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:48 am to TheGrouperFingers
me too. i think i was being too much of a negatiger, i think i think
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:49 am to TheGrouperFingers
This post was edited on 11/6/09 at 10:50 am
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:54 am to Washingtontigerlee
That was so... 
Posted on 11/6/09 at 10:58 am to TheGrouperFingers
By the way, I do think a big special teams play will make the difference in this game. I have a feeling Trindon is about to break one this week. I also wouldnt mind seeing RP back there once just to see what he can do.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 12:37 pm to chilge1
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What you implied was that he wasn't a good punt returner against upper-tier competition.
because he's not
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What these claims have stated is that after 2 years of establishing himself as a kickoff return threat, teams opted to kick away from him rather than risk him taking a punt back for a TD.
do we have any evidence of this other than trindon doesn't return it at a high rate?
Posted on 11/6/09 at 12:38 pm to Washingtontigerlee
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this is awesome seeing slowflopro getting shut down.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 12:38 pm to TheGrouperFingers
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I have a feeling Trindon is about to break one this week.
a punt or kickoff?
why would anyone ever "feel" like he's going to return a punt for a TD against a good team when he's never threatened it?
Posted on 11/6/09 at 1:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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do we have any evidence of this other than trindon doesn't return it at a high rate?
What evidence do you need? The fact that he has returned 20 punts in 11 games in 2 years? That's evidence enough that he is not getting return opportunities against decent teams. That is a function of several things:
1. The ability of the punter to put the ball high in the air and for a long distance, thus allowing coverage teams to converge and make returns a poor choice.
2. The coverage team's ability to get to the ball and stuff a return or make the returner decide to fair catch.
3. Sharing time as a punt returner with Chad Jones anytime the return is set up inside the 20 yard line.
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What you implied was that he wasn't a good punt returner against upper-tier competition.
because he's not
How do you know? Since we haven't seen it happen, due to lack of opportunities, how can you make that judgment?
Further, look at these stats for the season:
UF has allowed 1 punt return all season, for 0 yards.
Oklahoma has allowed 1 punt return all season, for 8 yards.
Some teams are actually good at stopping punt returns.
LSU? 5 returns, 25 yards (one of those was for 18) -- the other 4, total of 7 yards. Good kick coverage negates the abilities of kick returners, good or bad.
Your argument is lame.
This post was edited on 11/6/09 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 11/29/09 at 1:33 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Bumped to remind SFP of his ignorance.
Care to revise your ignorant comments after Trindon's solid play last night (despite his gaffe on the muffed punt)?
Care to revise your ignorant comments after Trindon's solid play last night (despite his gaffe on the muffed punt)?
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